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The only missing element is those trucks being filled with rocks. They could just empty their load at strategic intersections. This appears to be spreading to the US.

Patrickov wrote:Igor Antunov, the Anti-West pro-dictatorship propagandist, hijacks events in his favour again.


I'm all about the freedoms. You're the authoritarian in this narrative.
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People laughed but they'd been there for like 2 or 3 weeks now?

They raised $10 million Canadian on GoFundMe, who long story short, cancelled the fundraiser and had to return everyone's cash.

They then went on to raise $6 million so far on GiveSendGo, the Christian version of GoFundMe, and have been using it to bring in Jacuzzis and bounce houses for the kids. Which is fucking dope. Apparently it's like a giant party out there.

Some thugs came in and confiscated their gas and there's been like 30 arrests, but so far not enough to disperse them.

Edit: What really gets me about this is that many countries are ending lockdowns and mandates, including the US, but Trudope won't do it because he doesn't want it to look like he caved to the truckers or something?
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Igor Antunov wrote:The only missing element is those trucks being filled with rocks. They could just empty their load at strategic intersections. This appears to be spreading to the US.

I'm all about the freedoms. You're the authoritarian in this narrative.

You can't be for freedom and then at the same time use big trucks (or rocks which is your idea) to block public infrastructure and hold it hostage to force the government to do what you want.

Right to peaceful protest means you get to speak out against government without being jailed for it. It doesn't mean you get to break the law to get what you want.

The truckers already have been fined but the donors can pay for the fine so the truckers need to be arrested and the army tow their trucks away (tow truckers refuse to do it), but none of the politicians want to be the one to start a confrontation that could get violent, and hard to blame them.
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Unthinking Majority wrote:You can't be for freedom and then at the same time use big trucks (or rocks which is your idea) to block public infrastructure and hold it hostage to force the government to do what you want.

Right to peaceful protest means you get to speak out against government without being jailed for it. It doesn't mean you get to break the law to get what you want.

The truckers already have been fined but the donors can pay for the fine so the truckers need to be arrested and the army tow their trucks away (tow truckers refuse to do it), but none of the politicians want to be the one to start a confrontation that could get violent, and hard to blame them.


Public transport infrastructure is public property. As members of the public the truckies can block it without violating private property rights. Vaccine mandates to leave the house violate the rights to self. It's fundamentally worse by a magnitude. If private citizens need to get to work despite the roads being blocked they can just hop on their bike or walk a few hours every morning to work. Stop being lazy walking is healthy and spending time in sun getting vitamin D is more effective than vaccines for covid.
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Unthinking Majority wrote:You can't be for freedom and then at the same time use big trucks (or rocks which is your idea) to block public infrastructure and hold it hostage to force the government to do what you want.

Right to peaceful protest means you get to speak out against government without being jailed for it. It doesn't mean you get to break the law to get what you want.


It's called an obstructionist Strike and it is a protest for personal freedoms to be restored. It is entirely moral.

It's what Extinction Rebellion also does, simply on a less epic scale. Sometimes governments need to be held to account by grinding society to a halt.

If Trudeau won't talk to them or negotiate with them to depart peacefully, he needs to go and someone else needs to man up.
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Or BLM. Watching all of these leftists be like "you can't block the roads!" after years of BLM blocking roads is pretty hilarious.

People were giving warnings about how this might come around for years and they went unheeded, oh well.
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Wulfschilde wrote:Or BLM. Watching all of these leftists be like "you can't block the roads!" after years of BLM blocking roads is pretty hilarious.

People were giving warnings about how this might come around for years and they went unheeded, oh well.


They weren't just blocking roads, they were burning private businesses down and entire neighborhoods. The hypocrisy is cosmic.
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Igor Antunov wrote:They weren't just blocking roads, they were burning private businesses down and entire neighborhoods. The hypocrisy is cosmic.

Yeah. People are borderline comparing trucks honking to literal marauding. There have been hard feelings about this stuff building up for quite awhile and if you want a white pill just go read the comments from the people donating to this thing on GiveSendGo.

GoFraudMe is being investigated by a couple US states over this too, although now that they agreed to return the money, probably nothing comes of it.
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Igor Antunov wrote:Public transport infrastructure is public property. As members of the public the truckies can block it without violating private property rights. Vaccine mandates to leave the house violate the rights to self. It's fundamentally worse by a magnitude. If private citizens need to get to work despite the roads being blocked they can just hop on their bike or walk a few hours every morning to work. Stop being lazy walking is healthy and spending time in sun getting vitamin D is more effective than vaccines for covid.


That's not how public infrastructure works. It belongs to everybody. Truckers have no right to sit parked in the street. That's why people are given parking tickets. And honking your horn all night to annoy people to increase your leverage is just a douche move.

I'm not saying they shouldn't protest btw, just do it within the law.
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