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Trump is now facing criminal charges over classified documents right now. I won't be satisfied until I see Trump convicted and barred from holding public office ever again.

Kyle Cheney, Alex Isenstadt and Josh Gerstein of Politico wrote:Former President Donald Trump said Thursday that he has been indicted on charges connected to his handling of classified national security records, writing on social media that he has been summoned to federal court on Tuesday in Miami.

Prosecutors are charging the former president with seven criminal counts, according to a person familiar with the indictment granted anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly.

The precise charges that federal prosecutors have obtained against Trump were not immediately clear, but Trump said the Justice Department informed his lawyers on Thursday that a grand jury had returned an indictment. Todd Blanche, an attorney whom Trump has tasked with helming his defense, called the former president Thursday to inform him he was being indicted. Trump has been staying recently at his club in New Jersey.

The documents investigation has been overseen by special counsel Jack Smith and appeared to be nearing the charging phase in recent days. Smith’s team recently sent Trump a target letter and Trump’s lawyers met with senior Justice Department officials in Washington in what now appears to have been an unsuccessful bid to head off criminal charges against the former president.

A Justice Department spokesperson referred questions about the indictment to Smith’s spokesperson, who declined to comment Thursday evening. Trump immediately began fundraising off the news, issuing an email appeal to donors under the heading “BREAKING: INDICTED.”

Trump himself quickly mobilized his allies to rail against the charges and launch attacks against the Justice Department.

“I never thought it possible that such a thing could happen to a former President of the United States,” Trump said in a statement. “I am an innocent man.”

Since Smith has been using grand juries in Florida and Washington, D.C in recent days, it’s unclear whether the indictment Trump disclosed Thursday is the only set of charges he will face from the special prosecutor in connection with the classified documents probe.

Still, it’s a moment as fraught as it is historic: the first-ever federal charges against a former president, who also happens to be the Republican Party’s frontrunner for the 2024 nomination. The charges ignite what is sure to be a protracted and intense period of pretrial litigation that will overlap with the GOP nominating contest and galvanize Republican voters who have so far been unfazed by Trump’s legal entanglements.

Trump, who is already facing state felony charges in Manhattan related to alleged hush money payments to a porn star, has now been tagged with his second set of criminal charges, with more potentially looming. An Atlanta-based district attorney is gearing up to make a charging decision in a long-running probe of Trump’s bid to subvert the 2020 election as soon as next month. And Smith is similarly investigating Trump for his effort to derail the transfer of power to Joe Biden.

Trump has spent months railing against Smith and other investigators, seeking to cast their probes as a politically motivated conspiracy against him — and he spent the days preceding the latest indictment attacking the Justice Department by making false comparisons to Biden’s own handling of classified information.

The documents probe has its origins in a dispute between Trump and the National Archives, which began shortly after Trump left office in January 2021. Archives officials, who realized Trump had retained some presidential papers, began asking him to return the records because they were property of the federal government.

But Trump resisted, triggering a lengthy round of negotiation that stretched to January 2022, when he agreed to return 15 boxes of material to the Archives. That’s when Archives officials discovered several documents that were marked classified and alerted the Justice Department.

By April 2022, DOJ issued a subpoena to Trump’s office for all remaining classified documents at his Mar-a-LAgo estate. They also subpoenaed for surveillance footage from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate, which his company, the Trump Organization, monitored remotely. In early June 2022, top DOJ officials visited Mar-a-Lago to meet with Trump’s lawyers Evan Corcoran and Christina Bobb, who handed over another sealed folder containing classified records. Accompanying the folder was a signed letter assuring DOJ that the folder represented all of the remaining classified material at Trump’s property.

But that turned out to be false. In August, based on evidence that Trump had not fully turned over additional classified documents, the FBI raided Trump’s estate and recovered additional boxes containing highly classified material mixed with Trump’s personal items and other non-classified presidential records.

The raid galvanized public attention to the documents probe and drew Trump’s fury in a way it hadn’t before. Two weeks later, he sued to reclaim his property, igniting a legal fight that would briefly delay the Justice Department’s investigation. That fight stretched into November, when Trump announced his latest bid for the White House.

That announcement also triggered Attorney General Merrick Garland’s decision to appoint Smith as special counsel to oversee both the documents investigation and the probe of Trump’s 2020 election gambit. Garland indicated that Smith, who returned to the United States from a stint as a war crimes prosecutor at the Hague, would maintain the rapid pace of the investigations, which had been ongoing for months by the time he arrived.

Although the election probe drew higher-profile witnesses, like former Vice President Mike Pence and other senior figures in Trump’s White House, the documents probe always seemed poised to wrap first, and Smith brought in a steady stream of witnesses — employees of Trump’s estates, advisers and even Corcoran, Trump’s lawyer.

To secure Corcoran’s testimony, Smith fought a secret grand jury battle that was ultimately decided in his favor by U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell, who ruled that attorney-client privilege did not apply to Corcoran’s testimony and documents because they likely included evidence of a crime.


https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/0 ... e-00101165
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Tainari88 wrote:Does this mean that DeSantis is going to be the torchbearer for the Republican party? He can then go on and ban books and lock people up for being too woke. LOL. :lol:

Donald Trump, Hilary Clinton, Biden, DeSantis… is this really the best America can do? 300 million people to pick from, and these are your best and brightest? :eh:
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Potemkin wrote:Donald Trump, Hilary Clinton, Biden, DeSantis… is this really the best America can do? 300 million people to pick from, and these are your best and brightest? :eh:


Bring Arnold Schwarzenegger back. And get some Elizabeth Warren back. Some liberal icon and the Terminator. Lol.
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Tainari88 wrote:Bring Arnold Schwarzenegger back. And get some Elizabeth Warren back. Some liberal icon and the Terminator. Lol.

Indeed. Lol. Never thought I’d be nostalgic for Arnie and Liz…. :lol:
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ingliz wrote: Congress has no power to alter the qualifications in the text of the Constitution.

Indicted or convicted, Trump's not worried. The Supreme Court has ruled he can be president from his prison cell.


:lol:

Hey, if drug barons can run their cartel from inside a prison cell, why can’t Trump run America from inside a prison cell? :excited:
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Godstud wrote:
I guess since everyone thought Hillary Clinton was guilty it's fair to assume Trump is, too. I'd like to see them both sharing a cell. That would be an epic sitcom!



It's a speaking indictment, meaning the case is largely there for everyone to see.

You don't need to assume a thing. This isn't complicated law, and we have Trump on record breaking the law. Smith asked Americans to read the indictment, it's an open and shut case for the most part.

Lawrence O'Donnell had a few high powered lawyers on last nite. They explained what's going on. The only fly in the ointment is that the judge is an idiot; but she has almost certainly been privately reprimanded and should be on her best behavior. Which may not be saying much.
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Fasces wrote:The charges carry jail time, but 80 year olds with Secret Service detail would probably serve house arrest. No campaign rallies from a prison cell, unfortunately.

If elected, he can then just pardon or commute himself anyway.


He can call up Elon Musk and get on Twitter or some other platform and do tune in to my town hall from my house arrest. He can then pick a vice president willing to deny the election results if they do not agree with his desires, and then tell his cult followers to storm the capitol and create a civil war in many states.

The left is arming themselves supposedly as well. The ones with non binary children, and the Socialist Rifle Association of America is going to be armed in case the National Socialists of America (the Nazis come after them with guns for being far Leftists).
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/02/opin ... trump.html



You got Harari talking about AI robots being used to persuade humans who vote to think they are real human beings and Harari says that governments got to prohibit counterfeit humans from existing and those people who lie and say they are humans and are actually Chatbot GPT apps or something need to go to jail for 20 years.



Fake humans, manipulations and real humans who do not trust other humans all buying guns to feel safe from the non conforming or too conforming. It is INSANE. :lol: :lol:

It sounds like a bad science fiction mini series in the making.

The English title, 'Artiticial Humans in the Artificial Revolution' Spanish title 'Seres Postizos Llegan Al Poder'.

Lol. :D
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Wow, this article was posted on one of my favorite times of the year! I approve.

Trump the Criminal, has a ring to it. Cha-ching!

Potemkin wrote:Donald Trump, Hilary Clinton, Biden, DeSantis… is this really the best America can do? 300 million people to pick from, and these are your best and brightest? :eh:


Let's not forget about Marjorie Green...she's really bright. :lol:

OMG whoever supports her has a really low IQ. She's just awful. :knife:
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MistyTiger wrote:Trump the Criminal, has a ring to it.


Oh yes, thats a brand new idea that has NEVER EVER been tried before.

I really dont get why anyone is still falling for this.

They dont attack Trump because he did anything wrong. They've investigated him since forever and still havent found anything solid on him.

They attack him because he'll be president in 2024 again and they know it.
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