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#15051780
I hope Corbyn wins, because it would piss off all the retired racist Brits and Pomies that I know. :D
#15051809
Godstud wrote:I hope Corbyn wins, because it would piss off all the retired racist Brits and Pomies that I know. :D


You're obviously an inexperienced kid, and that's OK we were all there once. Yes even me. But when you gain a bit of life experience you may look back and assuming you have matured, you may be embarrassed at the crap you posted as a naïve kid. But I have to say, you are a great advert for raising the voting age to a minimum of 25. :)
#15051811
Godstud wrote:I hope Corbyn wins, because it would piss off all the retired racist Brits and Pomies that I know. :D
To be fair, Corbyn made too many enemies and fanatic followers for this to come true. Even many in his own party do not like him.
#15051815
Corbyn has spent a lifetime supporting every country and organisation who were against the UK. He has always been pro Hamas and Hezbollah, he supported Galtieri during the Falklands war, he supported Chavez, he supported Iran, he supported Putin during the Salisbury Novichok poisonings, and the cherry on the treacherous bastards cake is his life long support of the IRA, a terrorist organisation who murdered 800 British soldiers and 2000 civilian men women and children. Corbyn is the scum of the earth, he is a disgrace. It's mind boggling that some people want this 'man' to be the next British prime minister.
#15051824
Red Rackham wrote:Corbyn has spent a lifetime supporting every country and organisation who were against the UK. He has always been pro Hamas and Hezbollah, he supported Galtieri during the Falklands war, he supported Chavez, he supported Iran, he supported Putin during the Salisbury Novichok poisonings, and the cherry on the treacherous bastards cake is his life long support of the IRA, a terrorist organisation who murdered 800 British soldiers and 2000 civilian men women and children. Corbyn is the scum of the earth, he is a disgrace. It's mind boggling that some people want this 'man' to be the next British prime minister.


IMHO this is a rather strong criticism which might discredit itself. Citations may be necessary to allow others to verify this claim.
#15052221
I didn't think I could feel more loathing for Boris Johnson, but I do.
He's a disgusting piece of pink blubber and I cannot BEAR the thought of that tosser ever getting anywhere near number 10 ever again.

There are no words. None.
#15052225
Ter wrote:Agreed.
You forgot one important element. Soon the millions of Muslim immigrants in EU countries will obtain citizenship and will be able to move anywhere in the EU. I think a lot of Europeans do not want them next door in their cities and villages. All that thanks to Frau Merkel. Wir schaffen dass ? Nein, wir haben den EU kaputt gemacht.



The Germans are justifiably traumatized for their past and now want to be able to give immigrants an entry in to the EU. Also, they are not having as many babies to replace the aging German population. They got to get new blood in Germany.
#15052227
snapdragon wrote:I didn't think I could feel more loathing for Boris Johnson, but I do.
He's a disgusting piece of pink blubber and I cannot BEAR the thought of that tosser ever getting anywhere near number 10 ever again.

There are no words. None.


But some still vote him and his party.

It is probably better to find out why and act on the reason.
#15052614
Patrickov wrote:IMHO this is a rather strong criticism which might discredit itself. Citations may be necessary to allow others to verify this claim.


You won't get citations because it is a pack of lies.

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Hezbollah and Hamas because he opposes apartheid and genocide in Israel (this also makes him the worst antisemite since Hitler, apparently).

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Chavez because he opposes American imperialist intervention in Latin America.

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Putin because he argues for a diplomatic route with Russia rather than futile confrontation fuelled by facile russophobia.

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Iran because he opposes what will be an absolutely disastrous and bloody interventionist war.

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" IRA because he has long supported and conducted public negotiations with various groups in Northern Ireland to facilitate the achievement of peace in an area which British imperialism well and truly fucked over (for which he was given the Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award in 2013).

In other words, Corbyn is "pro" Britain's "enemies" because he opposes the noxious British imperialism that has wrecked a significant portion of the globe over the last three centuries, not least the Middle East over the past two decades.
#15052620
Kirillov wrote:Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Hezbollah and Hamas because he opposes apartheid and genocide in Israel


Great!
Maybe he overdid it a little calling those terrorists "his friends" and laying wreaths on the graves of terrorists who killed Israeli athletes in Munich in 1972 ?
#15052730
Did Boris Johnson give up campaigning and around the country and doing interviews the week before the election? :lol:













Corbyn in Birmingham tonight.


Kirillov wrote:You won't get citations because it is a pack of lies.

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Hezbollah and Hamas because he opposes apartheid and genocide in Israel (this also makes him the worst antisemite since Hitler, apparently).

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Chavez because he opposes American imperialist intervention in Latin America.

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Putin because he argues for a diplomatic route with Russia rather than futile confrontation fuelled by facile russophobia.

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Iran because he opposes what will be an absolutely disastrous and bloody interventionist war.

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" IRA because he has long supported and conducted public negotiations with various groups in Northern Ireland to facilitate the achievement of peace in an area which British imperialism well and truly fucked over (for which he was given the Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award in 2013).

In other words, Corbyn is "pro" Britain's "enemies" because he opposes the noxious British imperialism that has wrecked a significant portion of the globe over the last three centuries, not least the Middle East over the past two decades.


:cheers:
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skinster wrote:Did Boris Johnson give up campaigning and around the country and doing interviews the week before the election? :lol:













Corbyn in Birmingham tonight.




:cheers:


You do understand that Corbyn is doing the same thing the Republicans are doing. We have a XXX minority members so we can't be racist because of that. Its a meme by now.

There were several surveys about this. Majority of the jews in Britain consider Corbyn to be anti-semitic. Is it as bad as 87% as some surveys claim? May be, i don't know any jews in UK to ask them. But i can see it happening.

In my honest opinion this has nothing to do with anti-semitism in the classical sense. ( Nazi Germany ) It has a lot to do with the situation in Israel though which for some reason is transplanted on to jews living in the UK. It might be different but they still feel the discrimination. From the standpoint of the jewish community in the UK, there is no real difference if they are hated for one reason or the other.

Its a good thing that Corbyn apologised recently. He should have personally or through really close aids started dealing with the problem. Corbyn has the right to support the palestenian cause or Hamas etc. It is a whole other matter when that support transforms in to hate for local jews in the UK. This should have been prevented but wasn't and is causing problems right now. Reality is that Corbyn is not really an anti-semite but you suffer for your party behavior if you are the leader and don't do anything about it.
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JohnRawls, at this stage in the game you should have learned by now to only quote the part of a post that you're responding to.

JohnRawls wrote:You do understand that Corbyn is doing the same thing the Republicans are doing. We have a XXX minority members so we can't be racist because of that. Its a meme by now.


Can you re-state this in English please?

There were several surveys about this. Majority of the jews in Britain consider Corbyn to be anti-semitic. Is it as bad as 87% as some surveys claim? May be, i don't know any jews in UK to ask them. But i can see it happening.


There are tons of Jews who know where the smears are coming from, are parts of different orgs that are pro Corbyn and anti the Israeli lobby's smears etc. They don't get the press for obvious reasons. I've posted about them elsewhere on this board but let's pretend you didn't see any of that...

It has a lot to do with the situation in Israel though which for some reason is transplanted on to jews living in the UK.


Yes, the smears are coming from Israel and Zionists in the U.K. That "some reason" is because they are the ones targeted by the former, despite many of these Jews opposing the smears.

It might be different but they still feel the discrimination. From the standpoint of the jewish community in the UK, there is no real difference if they are hated for one reason or the other.


The hate comes from rightwingers, the racists who hate Jews but will join forces with Zionist Jews because, guess what, racists love their own. :lol:

Reality is that Corbyn is not really an anti-semite


We know.

but you suffer for your party behavior if you are the leader and don't do anything about it.


Riiiiight. Let me know when Boris Johnson gets into any trouble for his racism towards Black and Brown people, his homophobia, sexism etc. And that within the Tory party (which is MASSIVE).

I'll wait...
#15052735
skinster wrote:JohnRawls, at this stage in the game you should have learned by now to only quote the part of a post that you're responding to.



Can you re-state this in English please?



There are tons of Jews who know where the smears are coming from, are parts of different orgs that are pro Corbyn and anti the Israeli lobby's smears etc. They don't get the press for obvious reasons. I've posted about them elsewhere on this board but let's pretend you didn't see any of that...



Yes, the smears are coming from Israel and Zionists in the U.K. That "some reason" is because they are the ones targeted by the former, despite many of these Jews opposing the smears.



The hate comes from rightwingers, the racists who hate Jews but will join forces with Zionist Jews because, guess what, racists love their own. :lol:



We know.



Riiiiight. Let me know when Boris Johnson gets into any trouble for his racism towards Black and Brown people, his homophobia, sexism etc. And that within the Tory party (which is MASSIVE).

I'll wait...


I tried to do the quoting but I give up after some time. Honestly, it is pretty hard to quote every sentence one by one. May be i am just lazy.

This is indeed a smear but a smear that is based in something. It is not a baseless accusation. If jews in UK perceive that Corbyn is an anti-semite in mass(Majority) then this will only spread. The reason why Tories are pounding on this is because Corbyn is not doing much about this. Its good PR game for them where Corbyn is not even fighting back.

As for Boris Johnson, well, yeah he is anti-many different people. He is the leader of a party that takes EU citizens hostage for a better negotiating position while at the same time spreading bullshit about Muslims mostly. I mean, he is THE leader of THE Brexit party right now. I think that he gets so few problems because of this is basically because his electorate more or less is inclined to believe his drivel to justify some of their policies. While racism is fully inexcusable in Labour. Labour overall is a lot better in this regard but it still doesn't mean there is no racism of some sort in Labour.

Memes that there are jewish members in the Labour party or that Corbyn has jewish friends and THAT is why they can't be racist is the same drivel that Republicans use to excuse their racist bullshit. See our Republican Black members say that there is no voter suppression so there must not be any voter suppression!
#15052738
Red Rakham wrote:You're obviously an inexperienced kid, and that's OK we were all there once. Yes even me. But when you gain a bit of life experience you may look back and assuming you have matured, you may be embarrassed at the crap you posted as a naïve kid. But I have to say, you are a great advert for raising the voting age to a minimum of 25. :)
I am not young, although I did celebrate the 2nd anniversary of my 26th birthday, the other day. Your assumption is stupid, of course, but forgivable. I'm not British, and I think Brexit is a disaster, so why not get Corbyn in? :D Americans voted for Trump, didn't they?

I do know a lot of ugly Brits and Pomies, though, who think he's the anti-Christ. They revel in racism and anti-immigrant xenophobia(despite being immigrants themselves). It would amuse me to no end, to know the person they hate the most became PM of the UK.
#15052741
JohnRawls wrote:I tried to do the quoting but I give up after some time. Honestly, it is pretty hard to quote every sentence one by one. May be i am just lazy.


Seems so.

This is indeed a smear but a smear that is based in something.


Yes, based on the Israeli lobby and Zionists in the U.K. who latched onto the "taking down" of Pro-Palestinian politicians in the U.K. because, you know, they don't want to stop genociding Palestinians.

You can learn about the bounty on the heads of pro-Palestinian politicians in this undercover documentary that explains where the antisemitism smears come from.


You should read this article too, since you obviously have a lot of learning to do on this topic.


If jews in UK perceive that Corbyn is an anti-semite in mass(Majority) then this will only spread.


Except the opposite is happening despite the last 4/5 years spent on this smear. There is a lot of Jewish support for Corbyn.

The reason why Tories are pounding on this is because Corbyn is not doing much about this. Its good PR game for them where Corbyn is not even fighting back.


The Tories are opportunistic pigs and racist ones at that, so really, only the gullible fall for their crocodile tears about racism. Corbyn can't win with them either way, because this is a game based on deception with their buddies in the rightwing media constantly promoting the lie.

As for Boris Johnson, well, yeah he is anti-many different people.


I think what you meant to say is, Pigfucker Johnson is a racist, sexist, homophobe.

I think that he gets so few problems because of this is basically because his electorate more or less is inclined to believe his drivel to justify some of their policies.


His few problems right now currently exist in the form of running away from campaigning and tough interviews a week before the election.


Or sending daddy in his place. :lol:


While racism is fully inexcusable in Labour. Labour overall is a lot better in this regard but it still doesn't mean there is no racism of some sort in Labour.


There is less racism in Labour than there is in any other party, but this isn't a story about racism despite you racists trying to make it about that. You guys cannot be taken seriously on the subject of racism. And it's beyond disgusting how you continue to weaponise a form of racism, cheapening the fight against it.



Memes that there are jewish members in the Labour party or that Corbyn has jewish friends and THAT is why they can't be racist is the same drivel that Republicans use to excuse their racist bullshit.


Your antisemitism is showing again. They are lots of left-wing Jewish supporters of Labour under Corbyn. I've shared their orgs and events and posts in this thread. I've shared letters from Jews in the public eye, intellectuals and whatever, calling out the weaponisation of anti-semitism. Here's another that came out last month and only the NME would publish it and it was ignored for the most part, but these things are happening. Go a couple of pages back and see the Jewish support for Corbyn that I shared. Jews4Labour and Jews4Jeremy were trending hashtags again on social media a few days ago. They probably still are. I know you don't step away from the mainstream media much but you should see what's happening in social media for the real stories.
#15052812
Kirillov wrote:You won't get citations because it is a pack of lies.

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Hezbollah and Hamas because he opposes apartheid and genocide in Israel (this also makes him the worst antisemite since Hitler, apparently).

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Chavez because he opposes American imperialist intervention in Latin America.

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Putin because he argues for a diplomatic route with Russia rather than futile confrontation fuelled by facile russophobia.

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" Iran because he opposes what will be an absolutely disastrous and bloody interventionist war.

Corbyn is allegedly "pro" IRA because he has long supported and conducted public negotiations with various groups in Northern Ireland to facilitate the achievement of peace in an area which British imperialism well and truly fucked over (for which he was given the Gandhi Foundation International Peace Award in 2013).

In other words, Corbyn is "pro" Britain's "enemies" because he opposes the noxious British imperialism that has wrecked a significant portion of the globe over the last three centuries, not least the Middle East over the past two decades.

Oh please don't insult our intelligence. I won't insult yours by accusing you of believing this stuff. If you want to know what Corbyn's real beliefs are read Socialist Worker. The Socialist Workers party gave unconditional support to the IRA. It gives unconditional support to Hamas and Hezbollah. Obviously Corbyn's not going to come out and say this. During the Cold War the Soviet Union didn't encourage its agents like Jeremy Corbyn to come out in open support of imperialist Soviet expansionist militarism. No their agents were always encouraged to aid the Soviet terror machine under the guise of peace. in fact the Soviets always despised Trotskyists and Maoists who insisted on broadcasting their true beliefs.

In the same way the IRA perfectly understood that its collaborators in parliament like Jeremy Corbyn couldn't or rather shouldn't come out in open support. Jeremy Corbyn isn't Labour leader, because he's some sort of wishy washy soft leftist, no he's a hardline Marxist entryist. He's leader because of his incredible message discipline practised over decades. He's a harder leftist than John McDonnell or Dianne Abbot but he never allowed himself to the luxury of sounding off for cheap applause amongst his fellow fanatics, like they did.
#15052818
skinster wrote:Can you re-state this in English please?

The [....*] party is not institutionally racist/Anti-Semitic/Islamophobic/sexist/a bunch of homophobes. Many of our members are [....**]


* Insert name of political party

** Insert name of group


JohnRawls wrote:As for Boris Johnson, well, yeah he is anti-many different people.

Pigfucker Johnson is a racist, Islamophobic, sexist, homophobe. Testiculating*, waving one's arms around whilst speaking bollocks, cannot disguise this.


* Pádraig Ó Gríofa RTE on Johnson's speechifying..."Testiculation of the highest order".


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