[Nonsense]

The Scots won't get independence unless they win a seccession war. Referenda are not binding after all.

Nonsense -

, Tell that to Theresa MAY.

[Nonsense]

That's a disgusting lie! I am perhaps the most vociferous anti-anti-Semitism poster on this forum. Adolph Hitler was the classic Anti-Semitic Islamophile. He argued that Islam was a superior religion and that if Europe had adopted Islam it would have thrown back the Arabs because the Arabs were racially inferior Semites. I argue almost the complete opposite. I am a Greater European Nationalist. Greater Europe includes super Saharan Africa and the Fertile Crescent. I acknowledge our debt to the great pre -Islamic civilisations of North Africa and the Fertile Crescent many of which were Semitic, such as Babylonia and the Phoenicians.

As for being anti Jewish, that's even more of a joke. I was one of the courageous minority that praised Trump for recognising Jerusalem as Israel's capital. I recognises and support Israel's annexation of East Jerusalem, and I recognise and support Israel's annexation of the Golan heights. I recognise the Shebaa farms as Israeli territory. I would happily support an Israeli reoccupation of South Lebanon and a cleansing of Hezbollah from South Lebanon. Also far from calling the Ashkenazi Turks as so many of the Jew haters do, my starting assumption is that the Ashkenazi are racially Germanics, quite possibly genetically closer to Germans than myself.

Nonsense -

Rich -
" There is no doubt that Europeans have become more pro Palestinian in recent years, so inevitably the EU reflects this trend. Because of this Jewish supremacists have come to dislike the EU, feeling they are entitled to grovelling subservience. They pretend to care about the member nations and support the break up of the EU. They are not to be trusted. They do not have our interests at heart.”


Nonsense -

I think that you protest too loudly Rich, the tone of the above, intended to generate alienation to readers of the post, is hardly referential towards Israel or Jewish people as a whole & runs counter to your response.

You might gain a little more respect if you ceased in your serial efforts to call people who voted to leave as 'liars', it hardly encourages the spirit of proper debate of the issues, an alternative mix of words that do not generalise groups & an attempt at sourcing the 'lies' that you allege would add weight to your argument's.

Not so long ago, a German leader & his party of 'Socialist' also blamed the Jews for all of Germany's problems.

It's so convenient to blame those you hate for your own 'problems'.

One dreads to think what your 'ultimate' solution to these 'problems' are, whatever they are, in your mind perhaps?

Rich -
"Adolph Hitler was the classic Anti-Semitic Islamophile."

Nonsense -

Incoherence is seems to run deep in your veins, the above, when read in the sentence it was extracted from is just full of contradictions, something of a trademark of yours Rich.

[B0ycey]

[Nonsense]

It's in the original Treaty of Rome,that, 'ever closer union' is the long term objective, a pre-ambit to the formation of the EC, rhetorically accelerated by E.U neighbours, France & Germany.

Ironically, remainers would never understand that was the exact objective that Hitler aspired to.

On the 27th July 1932 in an election speech in Hessen-Nassau,Eberswalde,Germany, HITLER, gave a speech on the nature of the political situation in Germany & it's effects on the economy.
The 'real' economic situation of course, was brought about by the post WW1 imposition of reparations enforced by the allies resulting from the Vienna conference & not wholly by the following.

However, the situation then, can equally be applied to the EU, excluding the 'reparations' of course.

"I have set myself ONE goal: Namely, to sweep away the 30 parties out of Germany".

Substitute member nations names for parties, reverse his goal, viola!, his goals have been achieved(almost-27 counting) 'one' Germany-called the E.U, which proves one thing, there are two ways to wage war, militarily, or political - economical diplomacy(pressure), end result one europe under Germany & it's 'fait accompli'.

" I have achieved my goal to create one 'europe' I mean Germany, out of 30 nations"

If only Hitler knew that there are two ways to skin a cat

[Nonsense]

Nonsense -
, you should have used 'bold' capitals there (MAY) BOycey.

[B0ycey]

Nonsense -
, you should have used 'bold' capitals there (MAY) BOycey.

It isn't my meme. Sent you PM of suggestive improvements to "Have I got News for you"

[Nonsense]

It isn't my meme. Sent you PM of suggestive improvements to "Have I got News for you"

Not necessary BOycey, one sees what one reads, which we interpret one way or another.

[SolarCross]

Nonsense -

, Tell that to Theresa MAY.

Referenda are not binding unless The Powers That Be (TPTB for short) want them to be binding. In the case of brexit they clearly do; May has her marching orders.

[ingliz]

EU is part of NATO

Wrong!

Members of the EU but not of NATO:

Austria, Finland, Ireland, Malta, and Sweden.

[Atlantis]

Will she be able to take off with the third meaningful vote?

[Nonsense]

Referenda are not binding unless The Powers That Be (TPTB for short) want them to be binding. In the case of brexit they clearly do; May has her marching orders.

MAY has her marching orders alright,that's because she is\will fail to deliver what the referendum result required, 'Leave'.

The electorate never gave the Tories any additional license to delay leaving by creating her 'deal' or giving MP's a 'meaningful' vote that is mutiplying in number, the longer the delay goes on.

If we do not leave on 29 March, make no mistake, the 'leave' electorate will let CORBYN in at the next election & will never vote Tory again.

If we are going to 'sink', so be it, 'leavers' will be happy to 'pull-the-plug' on the 'establishment' traitors, by upsetting the political- economic apple cart.

[B0ycey]

Bit disappointed with Labour's no show for another referendum. So when May has her deal fail for a third time I guess I will just have to accept a long delay to Brexit until an election.

#ToryrebelsforTIGtocreateaminoritygovernmentplease

[Atlantis]

Bit disappointed with Labour's no show for another referendum. So when May has her deal fail for a third time I guess I will just have to accept a long delay to Brexit until an election.

I think the strategy is to delay the 2nd referendum for as long as possible so there is a clear majority when the full catastrophe that is Brexit has sunk into the brain of the last retard.

[B0ycey]

I think the strategy is to delay the 2nd referendum for as long as possible so there is a clear majority when the full catastrophe that is Brexit has sunk into the brain of the last retard.

I think it is strategy but more to force an election by paralysing Westminster rather than show casing the Brexit shitshow for another referendum. I don't know if it will work but it seem that some form of punt in the dark is needed to break the impasse so good luck to Corbyn I guess.

Nonetheless from looking at the numbers, for an referendum to occur it does need strong support from one of the two main parties rather than be a power play card. So at this stage a referendum does seem to be relying on hope more than reality. But I keep the faith and see what happens.

[Atlantis]

@B0ycey, the Tory's Brexit always was a fantasy of an imperial revival that's not going to happen.

For Britain to found its future on such a fantasy would be fatal. The best solution I see is a Labor government after another election. Labor would be able to negotiate a customs union with the EU that resolves all of the current problems. The deal could then be put to the vote in another referendum.

That would be the best for both the EU and the UK.

The EU would be able to use the deal as a model for all countries that want to be associated with the EU but don't want to, or can't, become full members.

[B0ycey]

A Labour government is better than a Tory government but I am not delusional as Labours CU is Mays deal with workers rights. So they will not solve the impasse either.

The best outcome to me is a coalition with Lib Dems/TIGS or SNP where Corbyn is forced to back a referendum as a compromise for the keys to number 10.

[snapdragon]

Well, I'm in a very bad mood this morning and I have a horrible feeling that May's awful deal is going to get passed if only just to stop the silly bitch yapping on about it, and as a bonus, get rid of her once and for all - and although I understood and approved the reasoning behind delaying a vote on the second referendum, it's a risk.

I'm hoping to god it doesn't backfire and that May's mathematical calculation it will take her six goes to get her deal passed is right. When is she ever, though?

I'm going on the march next saturday, which is one reason I'm in a bad mood, because I don't want to. I shall end up knackered with sore feet and probably be busting for loo most of the time, but there it is.

For perhaps the first time in my life I'm going to stand up and be counted. Fat lot of good it'll do, but I might get the chance to kick a brexiter's stick away without anyone seeing.

There's always a bright side.

[Kaiserschmarrn]

I hope your mood improves soon, @snapdragon.

[B0ycey]

Well, I'm in a very bad mood this morning and I have a horrible feeling that May's awful deal is going to get passed...

It won't pass even if the DUP accept it (I think they will).

They perhaps might get the support from the ERG if the DUP does accept the deal but there are a few hardliners within the ERG who won't back Mays deal at any cost. Also May is still neglecting her hardcore remainers within her party too. And without complete unity, as her deal does require pretty much all her party and the DUP to back it (which won't happen), it doesn't stand a chance even on the 11th hour.

However if she backed Kyles proposal she could be 4th time lucky as she then has the Lib Dems, TIGs, Labour remainers and perhaps SNP to back her deal in Westminster.

[Atlantis]

According to European Parliament sources, Italian right-wing populist Salvini has promised Farage that Italy would veto the extension.

If they have their way, the UK will crash out in less than 2 weeks without a deal.

What irony of history it would be if Farage betrayed his country by allying with Italian fascists.