[quote="Potemkin"]No, actually Parliament derives its rights from the Crown, which was the
original source of sovereignty in the Middle Ages. In fact, most of the history of Britain in the 17th century was the history of how Parliament wrested its rights from the monarchy. It was not a gentle or peaceful process. The people themselves have no legal sovereignty, either then or now.
Nonsense -
I am fully informed on current & past constitutional arrangements in this country thank you.
Potemkin - "The people themselves have no legal sovereignty, either then or now".
Nonsense -
Neither does parliament in the sense of permanence, because it is time limited,thats why we have have those arrangements under the 'Crown' , because it is the 'sovereignty' within the state & enables continuity with law,security, order, etc.
Sovereignty exist between the 'Crown' & people through parliament.
People could quite easily decapitate the monarchy system, should they so desire, I would advise against it, but, it requires 'hard pruning'.
Parliament is not permanent, it is temporal, the 'State' exist ONLY as long as the people wish it, were it to be decided by the people to have outlived it's purpose, a revolution or other means would entail it's replacement, that is what the French,Russians etc chose in the past.
It is, like international treaties, based upon the consent of the people,once withdrawn, as in the referendum, it is finished, one way or another.
'Sovereignty' is conferred on an institution like parliament, through the people, that's how it aquires it's 'sovereign' power, through the process of election, without which, it has no 'power' & that power is the people's power.
Potemkin -
It is indeed a form of direct democracy,
but it has no legal force. It is advisory only, and its result is not legally binding on Parliament. The people are not sovereign. Parliament is sovereign.
Nonsense -
Normally, in some countries they are, in others, not, however, the 2016 referendum was was NOT 'advisory' , it was 'legal' & made binding by parliament..
It was made 'legal' by way of passage through parliament, by notifying the E.U under Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty(all thanks to GORDO), for which E.U dictate that any country seeking exit from the E.U under Article 50, has 2 years of membership left, thereafter, it is deemed to have left the E.U, which is the date of 29 March 2019.
That date was determined by the rules of Article 50, as the last day of U.K membership, only effected by our notifying them of our wish to leave, by way of referendum.
It is a political decision to include that promise of a referendum in the Conservative manifesto, which PROMISED to DELIVER the RESULT of that REFERENDUM,that is the basis of the decision to hold that referendum, also to abide by the result, the 'legal' part began with the notification to leave the E.U.
Under current LAW(LEGAL
) passed by parliament, with Royal Assent, we LEAVE 29 March 2019...period.
LABOUR have no political credibility in fulfilling any promise in regards to a future referendum on europe, thanks to Gordon BROWN.