Rich wrote:Ha, the Brexiteers have used exactly the same popularist strategy as the SNP and the Provos /Sinn Fein, basing themselves on the most manual working class, under class, deprived areas. Look at UKIP/ Brexit Party bastions they're almost identical to the run down estates of Glasgow where the SNP have their highest levels of support or the Catholic ghettos of Northern Ireland which were ruled by the IRA. They're also not totally dissimilar to the lower class North Ireland Protestant areas where the DUP and the UDA have dominated.
I'm not outraged by the Brexiteers playing dirty, politics is by its nature a dirty game. No I'm outraged by their hypocritical, narcissistic self entitlement. They think that they're entitled to play dirty but we're not. They seek to inflame the situation by talk of betrayal and collaboration with the enemy. So let me make this clear to the Brexiteers, you are the enemy!
Or to be slightly more precise and prosaic, my current priority is to stop Brexit, to delay and disrupt, in-order hopefully to in the end revoke. An end goal that I have never sought to hide. So currently Brexit is the enemy so to speak, but if the Brexiteers lies are successful and they manage to get us to leave and there is no realistic hope of rejoining, then my priority is vengeance. The Brexiteers have long sought an independent United Kingdom. Well then my goal would be to ensure there no longer was a United Kingdom.
in the light of what I've just said, you Brexiteers might want to wonder what the real agenda of your new found friends Claire Fox and Brendan O'Neil is.
IMHO Rich, I think that you have lost the argument, you never miss an opportunity to call anyone wanting to leave the E.U 'Liar's'
,despite the democratic vote to do so & your post always indicate your own personal agenda.
Both CORBYN,as well as John McDonnell are expected to resign from the political fallout of Labour's behaviour over leaving the E.U if they lose the coming election in the months ahead & their dismal poll ratings point to that as a probable scenario.
That is a consequence of betraying the people that pinned their hopes on them to pry the Tories out of office, but, for which CORBYN capitulated to the 'remain' BLAIRITE camp within the party, rather than accept the democratic referendum result, decided to put those people to the back of the queue when it came to priorities.
The consequences are not going to be confined to Labour alone,they will extend across the political spectrum of U.K politics no matter what the eventual outcome of the talks underway.
The realisation must come one day for yourself to acknowledge,like the country will, that we need to move on to create a country that is fair & just to all.
The day after we leave is only the first day of the new beginning for the country, As CHURCHILL said after Rommell's defeat in Egypt, " Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning".
For the country, it is a new beginning, bound only by the limitations of people's imagination's in cleaving a future for themselves, the country & the environment that we occupy.
As always, problems are stored up no matter what party has held power, which need to be addressed by the 'new' government, that is always the political narrative in such situations, delivery is a different matter.
I never share your negativity, it's not something that anyone cares to debate on, IMHO ,it is purely an attitude, born out of frustration or anxiety, arising from some form of prejudice in my opinion.