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By noemon
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UK: Brexit party set to win, Tories slump to 10% – BBC projection
As results around the country begin to come in, Nigel Farage’s Brexit party is set to sweep to victory, with the Conservatives expected to win around 10% of the vote, according to a BBC projection.

The BBC has forecast that the Brexit Party will top the polls, with the pro-EU Liberal Democrats set to come second and the ruling Conservative party set to receive between 10 and 12% of the vote, down from 24% in 2014.

England: North-east declares
Haroon Siddique Haroon Siddique
The north-east is the first region to declare:


Britain Elects
@britainelects
North East, result:

Brex: 2 MEPs (+2)
Lab: 1 (-1)

The Scottish Labour party vote has crashed in the first four Scottish council areas to report results, with the Scottish National party showing the jump in support predicted by the opinion polls. Many analysts had forecast that Scottish voters would desert Labour for firmly pro-remain parties such as the SNP, the Lib Dems or Greens.

Labour’s support in East Ayrshire fell by about 20 points, down to just 12.9%, while in Renfrewshire it fell by 23 points to 13.2% and in East Dunbartonshire it fell by 23 points to 15.9%. That suggests Labour will only just hold onto one of their two MEPs.

The SNP’s vote rose by between 7.7 in the Scottish Borders to 20.6% and 13 points in West Dunbartonshire, up to 45.4%.

Meanwhile, the Brexit party looked on course to supplant Ukip in Scotland by taking one seat, winning 18.9% in the Scottish Borders, chiefly at the expense of the Conservatives, and 16.4% in East Ayrshire.

The Brexit party came first in 13 of the first areas (not regions) to declare, with over 40% of the vote in five of those. The list is Corby (east Midlands), Folkestone & Hythe (south-east), Telford & Wrekin (West Midlands), Rugby (West Midlands), Southend (east of England), Sheffield (Yorkshire and the Humber), Newcastle upon Tyne (north-east), Durham (north-east), Wolverhampton (West Midlands), Wrexham (Wales), Cardiff (Wales), Pembrokeshire (Wales), and Sandwell (West Midlands).

The exception is Croydon in London, where Labour came first by a whisker.

Italy: Salvini's far-right League beats socialists and Five Star – exit poll
Matteo Salvini’s far-right League party is on course to come top in Italy’s European elections, according to exit polls released shortly after voting ended.

Salvini’s coalition partner, the Five Star Movement, is left fighting the Socialist party for second place.

The League could be the largest single party in the European parliament. But Nigel Farage’s Brexit party could also take that spot.

Europe Elects
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Italy, SWG exit poll:

LEGA-ENF: 27-30%
PD-S&D: 22.5-24.5%
M5S-EFDD: 21.5-23.5%
FI-EPP: 9-11%
FdI-ECR: 5-6%#ElezioniEuropee #ElezioniEuropee2019 #EP2019

UK: turnout up in Wales, falls in Northern Ireland
Councils in some areas have reported increased turnouts at this year’s European elections compared with 2014.

The turnout in Wales is up five percentage points on 2014 – 37.3% against 32% in the previous poll. However, the turnout for Northern Ireland, at 45.1%, is down from 51% in 2014, as voter apathy apparently takes hold in a nation still without a devolved government amid deadlock between the two main parties.

Turnout for the south-east is 39.36%, up from 36.3% in 2014, while in the West Midlands it dropped from 32.4% in 2014 to 31.1% this year. Turnout in the north-west is down from 33.3% in 2014 to 33.1% this year, while the north-east has 32.7%, slightly up from 31.6%.

In the south-west, a turnout of 40.5% has been recorded – three percentage points up on 37.4% in 2014, and the eastern region has 36.4%, similar to the 36.6% of 2014. In London, 41.3% of eligible voters turned out, up from 40.1% in 2014.

Elsewhere, the turnout in Yorkshire and the Humber is 33.52% – close to the 2014 figure of 33.66%. The lowest council turnout in the region was Hull at 24.03%, and the highest was Harrogate at 42.78%.

The 2014 turnout, only counting valid votes cast, across the whole of the UK was 35.4%, ranging from 30.9% in the north-east to 51% in Northern Ireland.

Results will be declared in the 12 UK regions from 10pm on Sunday, after the close of polls elsewhere in the EU.

Greece: PM calls early elections after defeat
Helena Smith Helena Smith
The Greek prime minister, Alexis Tsipras, has called snap elections after his leftist Syriza party lost seats in the European elections.

With the centre right New Democracy opposition party on course to enjoy a 9.3% lead in European elections tonight, the leftist leader admitted the result fell short of expectations.

The scale of the defeat would have made it difficult for Tsipras’ Syriza government to be a credible interlocutor with international creditors still monitoring post-bailout Greece nine months after the debt-stricken country exited its third EU-IMF funded rescue programme.

The early election is expected to take place June 30th.

Speaking at party headquarters, Tsipras said:

There are two roads, the one of the many, or the one of renewed austerity.

It is up to the Greek people to decide.

Helen Pidd, the Guardian’s north of England editor, is at the count in Sunderland for the north-east and has spoken to the Brexit party’s lead candidate for the region, Brian Monteith.

He was a Conservative member of the Scottish parliament between 1999 and 2007, as well as a columnist for the Scotsman. Remarkably, he gave his address as being in Trevien, southern France, when he submitted his candidacy.

Jude Kirton-Darling, who hopes to be re-elected as a Labour MEP in the north-east, tweeted that it was “hypocritical that wealthy Brexiteers like him enjoy their freedom of movement whilst advocating stripping our young people of it”.

Monteith, who seems very confident he will be elected tonight, insisted he was not a hypocrite. “I don’t see any hypocrisy,” he told the Guardian on Sunday evening. “I believe I am just as much of a European as anyone in Norway or Switzerland or Iceland. But I am entitled to stand for the European parliament and I am entitled to vote.”

He said it was not unusual to live in a different country from the one in which you are seeking election, citing “my old friend David Steel”, the SDP politician who in 1989 accepted an invitation from Italian Liberals to stand for the European parliament.

“So it’s not unusual and in fact I am already in the throes of moving house back to the UK when I was invited to stand. The fact that France is my address as my main residence is neither here nor there,” said Monteith, who quit the Conservative party in 2005 after a row with the then Scottish Tory leader, David McLetchie.

As well as working as a journalist, Monteith says he is a “pen for hire” who has worked all over the world, in Uganda, Botswana, Trinidad and Tobago, Pakistan and Tunisia, and recently wrote a speech on climate change for the president of Nigeria. “I spend a great deal of my time not even in France.”

Asked by the Guardian if he would move to the north-east if elected, he said:

I will certainly consider it ... This is not like any other election. It’s not like a council election, about fixing the pavements, it’s not about the Scottish parliament or Westminster election, about fixing potholes in the street or creating laws. It’s about the European parliament election, which shouldn’t be taking place, and which I would rather were not taking place. It’s about making a statement to the British government, providing a voice to the people to send a message. So as long as I am a good communicator, a good campaigner, a good writer, which is my profession, then being located in, say, Gateshead or Durham, which are places I know well, is not a crucial point. Were it a different kind of election I would consider it more important.

He suggested he would not object to having to apply for a visa to visit his current French home, post-Brexit. “I do not need freedom of movement to determine where I work. If I need to go, as I have done earlier in the year, to the United States, I apply for a visa. If I have to work in Nigeria or Pakistan, I apply for a visa … I am not hypocritical because I accept the laws of other countries and I abide by them.”

But Richard Elvin, Ukip’s lead candidate in the north-east, suggested voters may regret voting for a candidate who lives abroad. “When the people of the north-east wake up and find their chief representative is a Thatcherite Scottish Tory who lives in France they may regret it ... I believe you should live in the constituency you represent. If you live in France, wow. As I speak German, why don’t I ask one of the German parties if I can stand in Germany?”

Portugal: Socialist party on course to win, as Greens break through
Sam Jones
Three polls in Portugal suggest the governing Socialist party is on course for victory, winning eight or nine seats, followed by the conservative Social Democratic party with five to seven and the Left Bloc with two to three.

The green People-Animals-Nature party looks set to win its first seat.

The Press Association reports that the regional voting turnout figure for London in the European elections is 41.3%, up from 40.1% in 2014.

All 32 boroughs and the City of London have finished counting votes, it quotes the regional returning officer, Janet Senior, as saying.

Despite this, it has been reported that the London results will not be announced until 2am.

Greece: PM mulls early elections after crushing defeat

Will he or won’t he ? That is the question Greeks are asking in the run-up to an expected announcement from the PM, Alexis Tsipras, over possible snap polls following his leftist party’s crushing defeat in the European elections.

With Syriza trailing the centre-right New Democracy by 8.5 % ( and very possibly 9% once official results are announced), the opposition leader, Kyriakos Mitsotakis, has called for the 44-year-old leader to resign immediately and call early elections.

Before the poll Tsipras had called the election a confidence vote in his government and promised to redress years of austerity with €1bn worth of handouts.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... s-may-live
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By Nonsense
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I have been watching Emily THORNBERRY on BBC News Live, listening to her views on the euro elections, reinforces my opinion on that party's direction as being one of continued opposition past the next election.
Talk about digging when in a hole, her mouth is like a JCB bucket, the rubbish she spouts on the reasons for where Labour went awry is unbelievable & confirms my current opinion that their MP's in the Shadow Cabinet are politically deranged.

She was pushing for a second(confirmatory) referendum with an option to 'remain', that position equates to a political rejection of the 2016 referendum & that party's continued parliamentary tactics intent on destroying the democratic vote will cost them dearly at the next election.

I predict, on that basis, that Labour will not form a working majority should it 'win' the next election & if the Brexit Party enlarge it's span of policies it could transform itself into a national party with good prospects in that coming election.

Emily THORNBERRY, with her views reflecting Labour's contempt for democracy itself, with it's attempts at circumventing democracy, by using the Tory government as a proxy for having another referendum with the 'remain' option included,in their failed negotiations with Theresa MAY, will come back & bite them where it hurts-in the poll booths.
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By Ter
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Labour :lol:
By skinster
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Looks like Brexit Party won.

colliric wrote:The kind of election results that everyone, except the two major parties, will think is a win for them.


Indeed. Reading social media right now and I want to set everyone on it on fire. :lol:
By B0ycey
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Nonsense wrote:Emily THORNBERRY, with her views reflecting Labour's contempt for democracy itself, with it's attempts at circumventing democracy, by using the Tory government as a proxy for having another referendum with the 'remain' option included,in their failed negotiations with Theresa MAY, will come back & bite them where it hurts-in the poll booths.


You really do live in a bubble of ignorance. Labour 15% Lib Dems 20%. There is no centre ground left. You either a leave party or a remain party. Fence sitting loses you votes. So Labour have to choose. Do they battle out with the Tories for the leavers vote next election or the remainers? Remain clearly have the larger vote share and are more likely Labour voters so pushing for a second referendum should be their position actually.
By snapdragon
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Boycey wrote:Remain beats Leave. That will do.


Yep. A pretty comfortable win, too. The Brexit Party pulled less than a third of the total votes, which has surprised and pleased me.

I was expecting them to do much better than that, especially as remain won not just overall, but in most areas.
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Obviously, I'm pleased. It just amazes me that the globalists still think there is any hope for their views. They could have relented on immigration for a time and moderated, but their absolute insistence on making native populations secondary in their own countries has backfired in a big way, and looks set to continue. Infiltrating conservative and liberal parties and claiming to be "centrist" is going to cost the globalists their hold on power.

Marine Le Pen has won in France, beating Macron's broad coalition.
Nigel Farage has won in the UK, with Lib Dems gaining and putting Labour and the Conservatives as also rans.
New Democracy won in Greece, and Tsipiras has called elections.
League won in Italy, overtaking 5-Star.
Viktor Orban's party won solidly in Hungary.
Sebastian Kurz's party won in Austria.
Law and Justice won in Poland

It's quite interesting. The only things the establishment seems happy about are UKIP getting destroyed (as though Brexit and UKIP were all that different), and the Green party saw gains. I imagine they will be happy about the socialists winning in Spain. However, media-wise they are spinning like dervishes trying to downplay the fact that anti-EU parties have increased in strength.
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By colliric
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snapdragon wrote:Yep. A pretty comfortable win, too. The Brexit Party pulled less than a third of the total votes, which has surprised and pleased me.

I was expecting them to do much better than that, especially as remain won not just overall, but in most areas.


?

You do realise the Brexit party won the vote overall right? and that Nigel Farage is in a stronger position I
the EU parliament than ever before?

I mean the Remain vote only wins if you count all the minor parties as one block. But Brexit vote was mostly to one party.

With a new PM(BORIS JOHNSON!! Surely!), Brexit is back on track.
By B0ycey
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colliric wrote:?

You do realise the Brexit party won the vote overall right?


:eh:

They didn't win the vote outright. They got 32% of the vote not above 50%.

Sure they are the biggest party but that is because the Brexit vote didn't split. The remain did. So whilst it is true to win a general election the remain vote must unite behind one party to make a difference, it is also true in this election Remain had a larger voter percentage to Leave.
#15007779
For a bit of irony, the Brexit party and the German CDU/CSU are apparently the biggest single parties in the EU parliament, both with 29 seats.

All results here.
By snapdragon
#15007780
… and if you add voter turnout into the equation, then that 32% is worth even less than it seems.

It's stretching the point a bit, which is why I shan't belabour it, but considering how afraid Brexiters are of A50 being revoked, then it isn't totally unfair to take into at least some consideration that non voters are pretty much ambivalent at least.

… and then add the scandal of the number of people being turned away from polling booths because the paperwork hadn't been sorted, then Remain did even better than it seems.

Also, the people who voted for the Brexit Party are going to expect some sort of action from them.

Farage claimed last night he was now going to give people the Brexit they voted for...really?

Famous last words, Nige.
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By Nonsense
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B0ycey wrote:You really do live in a bubble of ignorance. Labour 15% Lib Dems 20%. There is no centre ground left. You either a leave party or a remain party. Fence sitting loses you votes. So Labour have to choose. Do they battle out with the Tories for the leavers vote next election or the remainers? Remain clearly have the larger vote share and are more likely Labour voters so pushing for a second referendum should be their position actually.



BOYcey- YOU have the monopoly of ignorance that could not be contained in any 'bubble'.

The BREXIT Party was the clear leader across the board - not just between any other particular party, but, in many cases, against multiple parties in their respective E.U consituencies.
If I were you BOYcey, I would take immediate steps to complete your primary education & leave the rest to the matured students.

This was the 'second' referendum, the other parties lost - again, because of their false promise to honour the result of the 2016 referendum. by not delivering BREXIT.

As I have previously stated, the Lib Dems are the Trash Bin, for which disaffected voters put their votes in, there is nothing more to their position than that & anyone reading more into it is just dreaming.

Tom WATSON & Emily THORNBERRY are politically ignoranus's.

If Labour thinks that it can come off the fence, campaign to remain through another 'confirmatory' referendum, then their delusions are indellible & they will lose the next election, which is the Third Stage of the tremours in current British politics that will redraw the political landscape with a root & branch change from top to bottom across the board.

When Labour adopts a policy that runs counter to the 2016 referendum, then that party is in for an almighty democratic political pounding, that's why pushing for a 'second' referendum with an option to remain, is dishonest, but reveals their real position in respect of the 2016 vote, they also talk of pushing for an election will see them lose it resoundingly.

What happened here was repeated to a degree in europe where nationalist, anti-immigration parties are the winners, 'populist' parties are just that, the rest are simply 'unpopular', that is the modus operandi of democracy in action & it's that simple.
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By noemon
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blackjack21 wrote:Obviously, I'm pleased. It just amazes me that the globalists still think there is any hope for their views. They could have relented on immigration for a time and moderated, but their absolute insistence on making native populations secondary in their own countries has backfired in a big way, and looks set to continue. Infiltrating conservative and liberal parties and claiming to be "centrist" is going to cost the globalists their hold on power.

Marine Le Pen has won in France, beating Macron's broad coalition.
Nigel Farage has won in the UK, with Lib Dems gaining and putting Labour and the Conservatives as also rans.
New Democracy won in Greece, and Tsipiras has called elections.
League won in Italy, overtaking 5-Star.
Viktor Orban's party won solidly in Hungary.
Sebastian Kurz's party won in Austria.
Law and Justice won in Poland

It's quite interesting. The only things the establishment seems happy about are UKIP getting destroyed (as though Brexit and UKIP were all that different), and the Green party saw gains. I imagine they will be happy about the socialists winning in Spain. However, media-wise they are spinning like dervishes trying to downplay the fact that anti-EU parties have increased in strength.


This post is hilarious as it's quite evident that you cannot post anything without adding a whinging disclaimer of what poor victims the far-right are. This victimisation of the far-right is becoming more and more cringe-worthy. But all this crying is fake. European and British media have been posting about Farage, Le Pen, La Lega in Italy, Orban and Poland for weeks and have all recognised and reported those gains not just from last night but weeks ago. The major upset that no-one predicted and no-one reported is in fact the astronomic rise of the Green Parties across Europe.

Second, Kurtz and New Democracy are bog standard conservatives same as Merkel's party which most of you guys consider leftist, if I were in Greece I would have voted for New Democracy for example as did most of my family. These people have nothing to do with the other bunch you associated them with, nor with Trump or the silly-fascist Tommy boy who's your hero and got humiliated in these elections. As did Sargon of Akkad as well.

These elections when you look at things holistically are not much different from previous elections. Major parties have been punished and less mainstream parties have picked up their votes both on the left and the right. This is a trend we have been witnessing almost in every single EU election as people are more confident to vote less mainstream parties than in national elections where they return back to their bases. In fact Farage, Le Pen and many others would not even exist as political parties if it were not for the European elections as these parties historically only managed to get elected in the European elections alone. Nationalists have stolen votes from bog standard conservatives while Green parties and Liberal parties have stolen votes from Labour-Left parties. The divide has not moved a single inch further to the right or left, though.
By Atlantis
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This is a victory for Europe. The turnout was about 51%, up from 43% the last time, and even though the center-right EEP and center-left S&D lost some votes, the liberal ALDE and the Greens gained massively. Together the 4 groups at the center are expected to get 505 of the 751 seats in the European parliament. The populist far-right failed to perform. European politics is the politics of the center. The extremists cannot takeover European politics.
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By colliric
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But it's also a victory for Brexit despite the doom and gloom some people are forecasting. Farage winning more votes is a clear victory.

Plus Boris Johnson is almost certain to win the leadership.

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