Presvias wrote:The populist right do worry me, because if they 'are' the consensus ie they become the consensus; then the whole Union will either crumble or become poisonous. I don't think that's going to happen, luckily.
The populist right is not the "consensus" it is part of the consensus - and a minor one at that. I truly and honestly detest the populist right; however, I will defend their right to political representation. Once they are engaged in the political process, they only have two choices:
1) keep on spouting nonsense and end up in the dustbins of history,
2) become moderate and work for beneficial solutions.
In the two-party system of the UK, Ukip was excluded with the result that the populist right took power by coming in through the backdoor. They had no chance of gradually entering politics and adjusting their position to arrive at a workable Brexit. The UK now probably has the most right-wing government in the midst of a national crisis situation.
The EU cannot fall into this trap. One member may come under populist rule for a while, but the whole of the EU can never come under a populist right-wing rule. Following the Brexit debacle, the EU has now become irreversible. Even eurosceptic right-wing populists across the continent no longer advocate leaving the EU or the Euro. Instead, they want to use the EU to promote their politics, which as I said above won't succeed.
The EU is the most advanced form of human organisation in the economics, social and political fields. There is no way of going back to the previous stage of development, just like there is no way of going back from the nation state to previous tribal rule.
@Heisenberg, I didn't say you are an imperialist. I said you are a closet imperialist, which you aren't even aware of. Your anti-EU rants or your attempts at dividing the EU by portraying it as a Germany-dominated organisation are classical divide and rule tactics of the imperialists. German imperialism is dead. No need to beat a dead horse. UK/US imperialism is alive and kicking. I grant that Macron cannot but follow the imperial tradition of his country, but he won't succeed in moving the EU in that direction. That is perfectly in line with what I said earlier about the EU (like the HRE before) being a union of sovereign nations to defend against imperialism both inside and outside. Irrespective of your posturing, you are objectively aligning yourself with the imperialists. Just like Corbyn is a hypocrite when he advocates leaving Nato or scrapping Trident. He won't do it if he gets into No. 10. Instead he will follow neocon policies like previous Labor governments, just like Obama pursued the US's imperialist agenda, instead of working for nuclear disarmament.
The only way to get away from Nato and be complicit in the crimes of US imperialism is by building an independent European defense. The British government understands that perfectly well. That is the reason the British have always vetoed EU defense cooperation.