Puffer Fish wrote:It's obvious that it could happen, and almost certainly already has happened.
We are not dealing with "What ifs", or fear-mongering about what could happen. We're dealing with facts.
I do not see the potential problems that you see.
Puffer Fish wrote:These urine tests are not completely accurate. No, they are not, and further testing is absolutely required if someone tests positive.
They do this everywhere for drugs. The law cannot act on a single positive test, either, given the unreliability of said tests. A person who tests positive in a urine test could, however, be subject to a blood test, which is not unreliable.
Puffer Fish wrote:One test is all it takes to potentially suffer legal consequences.
No, it is not. Please provide some evidence of this.
It is enough, though, to arouse suspicion to allow a search. If you don't have illegal drugs, however, you don't have to fear this. You could also request a blood test to confirm the test.
Puffer Fish wrote:Discrimination is still discrimination. It doesn't matter how small the group is.
No. It's suspicion where it is warranted. As mentioned MANY times, steroid use has many visible side effects. Steroids are illegal.
Puffer Fish wrote:Do we not care because only a tiny fraction of the individuals in society have insanely big muscles? What percentage of society has to be targeted before we start caring?
Irrelevant. This is an emotional argument with no basis in reality.
Puffer Fish wrote:You're familiar with the concept "tyranny of the majority over the minority".
Stop the melodrama. This is not tyranny. It's enforcement of anti-drug and anti-doping laws.
Puffer Fish wrote:It is possible (though very difficult) for an individual to have insanely big muscles without steroid use.
Yes, and a simple test would show that they are not, or some questions to the gym would make the need for a test unnecessary, as people who go to a gym for many years have gradual progression, and not the kind that you see with steroid use.
Puffer Fish wrote:It's a lifestyle for these people.
One could even draw a comparison to gays, lesbians, and transgendered people.
No. That's bullshit, and you know it. A dishonest argument is just that.
“Let me never fall into the vulgar mistake of dreaming that I am persecuted whenever I am contradicted.” ― Ralph Waldo Emerson