@Donna
The claim that police (presumably in the UK) did not do their job due to fear of being called racist is pretty dodgy. It has been made into something of an article of faith for Islamophobes, which is why Tommy Robinson managed to keep getting into trouble over it. He just couldn't understand that the system was dealing with an issue according to its legal traditions and procedures and that it was actually him who was behaving inappropriately.
-Well, if they didn't have the facts and realities on the ground proving their claims on the topic, they wont be able to last so long now would they.
Not everything can be attributed to racism.
- Again, if the system was being applied as you said, it wouldn't have lasted so long.
- And finally, not everything can be attributed to Islamophobia because those groups and gangs are merely an extension to the ones we have here in the region, and people here, i.e. Muslims, also hate them and fight them.
No. Everyone has rights.
Rights mean nothing if they're not protected, and as is clearly obvious, they're not in this case.
Police in countries that uphold rule of law generally don't move in on criminals unless they can build a case that can withstand scrutiny from the legal system.
There are tons of evidence already, it's literally being done in public.
There are thousands of victims to the point where some of them are even branded, how much evidence do you need to atleast start arresting people or having a trial?
What now, you're going to start dealing with these types of crimes like in courts in general in Pakistan under Jennah where a rape case can only be proven by 3 male witnesses?
There are more than enough evidence to atleast start trials and put the victims under protection.
Instead in the UK the victims of human trafficking seems to be prosecuted and arrested more than the traffickers themselves.
If police aren't moving in on traffickers, it's probably because the case is legally weak, not because they're afraid of being called names.
A leaked report produced by the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) has upheld a complaint made by a father whose daughter had been missing for a week. He said a police officer told him that Rotherham “would erupt” if it came out that Asian men were habitually having sex with underage white girls.
It states that the South Yorkshire police were scared to take action against a group of Asian men who were sexually abusing a young girl for fear of triggering unrest in the Asian community and being branded racist. Instead, they did little to disrupt the gang and safeguard the vulnerable victim and other young girls, even though they knew they were being subjected to horrendous sexual abuse.
In 2011 Jack Straw, the former home secretary, suggested there was a cultural element to the then new phenomenon of “grooming gangs” and suggesting some men of Pakistani origin see white girls as “easy meat”. The former Blackburn Labour MP spoke out after two Asian men who abused girls in Derby were given indeterminate jail terms. At the time, he was quickly shouted down and labelled a racist. It was even suggested that his comments were an attempt to influence a pending Oldham by-election.
Review after review has found that there is a tendency by almost all protection agencies to to essentially leave these vulnerable girls to suffer and let the criminals continue their offending. One of the reasons for this is the issue of the ethnicity of the perpetrators.
But in May 2019 it was estimated that there were at least 73 grooming gangs operating in the UK. The inability of South Yorkshire Police and other forces to act professionally and speak openly and plainly about the ethnicity of on-street child abusers is a significant factor in why these horrific offences have gone undetected for so long and it remains a significant factor today.
http://theconversation.com/asian-groomi ... use-130099an Asian grooming gang was free to roam the streets and abuse young girls because police officers were told to “find other ethnicities” to investigate, a detective has claimed.
Following a two-year inquiry, commissioned by Greater Manchester mayor Andy Burnham, into the historic failings of police and social workers, a report was published today which concluded that vulnerable girls in care were groomed and abused in "plain sight".
The report found multiple failings at the hands of GMP, including how fears over race relations appear to have played a part in senior police thinking when tackling grooming gangs comprised of predominantly Asian men.
It quotes him as saying: "What had a massive input was the offending target group were predominantly Asian males and we were told to try and get other ethnicities."
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/0 ... sic_planitNot buying it
You not buying it is irrelevant, the facts on the ground are, and the facts don't support your argument.
All of the data on UK policing and bias suggests the opposite, that people of colour are disproportionately targeted by police.
-Funny enough I did look at the police data in a previous discussion here around a month ago, and no not really, as far as I recall, the biggest group targeted by number and portion was whites, not Black or "Asian".
You can actually look up the crown's prosecutor annual report and in all the stats relating to race whites will be the main group targetted throughout the past decade.
- [Trigger warning] Regarding actual crime, yea, it is expected that Migrant communities of middle eastern and African origins will have higher crime rates, for many of the same reasons that the black communities in the US have a high violent crime rates. Poor communities with weak social structures makes it easy for gangs and mobs to take hold in them and thus higher rates of violence.
-Also, when it comes to Middle Eastern communities, especially the religious ones, sexual crimes against white girls are expected to be higher for the simple reason that they consider them to be whores and deserving of being raped and abused.
I know that not from reading some European right-wing report, but because I know that this mentality is widespread in some countries here, especially in Egypt and, to some extent, Jordan; As such, when those guys migrate to Europe, that mentality doesn't just go away, it becomes even more dangerous because the number of girls wearing un-Islamic clothes is way higher than they could find in their countries of origin.
These problems are so big and major in Egypt for example to the point that it makes the headlines almost constantly (i.e. sexual harassments, grooming gangs, sexual assault endemics, gang rapes, etc)
Just the other day there was the story of a grooming gang in al-Mansoura went viral after they attacked a girl and tried to strip her and rape her all while calling her a whore because her jeans was too tight apparently, she managed to escape, (it happened a couple of weeks ago and the vids of it are all over the place) but in general, if you just changed the names, locations, and victim and offender info of the case and published it in English, it would be indistinguishable from the stories about those gangs in the UK or the mass rapes and sexual assaults in Germany, etc. Because it's the same mentality and, in many cases, it's even the same gangs.
European and western liberals, in general, can keep denying all they want, including yourself, but in reality these things happen in migrant communities of which the exact same types of crimes and gangs also occur in their countries of origin. The difference between liberals in the middle east and Europe is the liberals here are fighting against these things, not covering it up.