- 20 May 2021 14:37
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I do not think that any nation is hopeless to change; however, I think that some nations do require a lot more effort than others to become changed. - Verv
I have recently watched a trailer:
And it got me thinking a bit about history and the similarities in many works of literature and art. We seemingly have a concept of a country being a sort of a "Warden" of the world or some place. It can be that games trailer or Game of Thrones for example. I was thinking about where does this concept comes from in reality and the basic idea that I could think of is its Russia through out history for Europe. Russia has been aggressive towards Europe yes through out history but the prosperity of Russia and Europe seem to be closely connected and usually if Russia weakens then Europe goes in to a sort of economic, technological and cultural decline. Then I started to somehow justify this with historical facts and came to a conclusion that may be there is something to this idea in general.
So if we start from the days of the Roman empire then it is undoubtable that a large problem for them was that they were expecieing constant invasions from the migrating tribes on their borders or from outside which in the end helped the fall of Rome.
Then there was the Middle ages when Russia was starting to appear and funnily enough, High middle ages which is considered the pinnacle of culture and technology at that time has coencided with the rise of the Kievan RUS. By the time of the 10th until the middle of the 13th century culture was prospering, population was growing and so on.
But after the Mongols destroyed the Kievan Principalities then the crysis of the late middle ages start. "Official" date for the late middle ages is 1250 and funnily enough the Mongols managed to destroy the Kievan Rus principalities somewhere around 1240s if I still remember my history correctly.
Then there were the Mongol rule through out the late middle ages in Russia but after came the Renaissance. Once again, now Grand Duchy of Moscowy managed to defeat the Mongol yoke and started establishing the Tsardom of Russia. Again the dates coincide with the start of Renaissance in Europe.
And then we reach the point of Post renaissance, early modern Europe, capitalism, Imperialism and so forth. Time of great technological, cultural and so on progress when Europe basically took over the world. Once again, at this time Russia was relatively stable and fully took control of the steppe tribes or migrating tribes near the caucuses and modern day Ukraine. The only real invasion of Europe from outside was either Russia itself or by the Ottomans. But then again, it was Russia who pummelled the Ottomans to non-existence eventually with other European countries having their own benefits in this process.
After that we had the 2nd World war and the Soviet Union which I am not sure how to rate in this context.
And now we finally get to the modern day. Current Russia seems to be disintegrating little by little under Putin. So the main question here is, although Europe is more united compared to any time in its history, is it a process that we should accelerate or prevent at all costs? Currently, if Russia disintegrates then it will the Poles, Estonians, Lithuanians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Greeks standing on the forefront of defence against either the Turks or anything else that might come from beyond. Many people forget that simple existence of Russia keeps Erdogans imperialism in check for example. So what does Pofo think about this topic?
If somebody doesn't know then I am heavily against the disintegration of Russia at all costs as stated in several other topics. As much as a threat Russia is and was through history, it is still a very useful bulwark of sorts. (Not to mention the modern iteration of crysis (Immigration for example) and so on that will repeat)
And it got me thinking a bit about history and the similarities in many works of literature and art. We seemingly have a concept of a country being a sort of a "Warden" of the world or some place. It can be that games trailer or Game of Thrones for example. I was thinking about where does this concept comes from in reality and the basic idea that I could think of is its Russia through out history for Europe. Russia has been aggressive towards Europe yes through out history but the prosperity of Russia and Europe seem to be closely connected and usually if Russia weakens then Europe goes in to a sort of economic, technological and cultural decline. Then I started to somehow justify this with historical facts and came to a conclusion that may be there is something to this idea in general.
So if we start from the days of the Roman empire then it is undoubtable that a large problem for them was that they were expecieing constant invasions from the migrating tribes on their borders or from outside which in the end helped the fall of Rome.
Then there was the Middle ages when Russia was starting to appear and funnily enough, High middle ages which is considered the pinnacle of culture and technology at that time has coencided with the rise of the Kievan RUS. By the time of the 10th until the middle of the 13th century culture was prospering, population was growing and so on.
But after the Mongols destroyed the Kievan Principalities then the crysis of the late middle ages start. "Official" date for the late middle ages is 1250 and funnily enough the Mongols managed to destroy the Kievan Rus principalities somewhere around 1240s if I still remember my history correctly.
Then there were the Mongol rule through out the late middle ages in Russia but after came the Renaissance. Once again, now Grand Duchy of Moscowy managed to defeat the Mongol yoke and started establishing the Tsardom of Russia. Again the dates coincide with the start of Renaissance in Europe.
And then we reach the point of Post renaissance, early modern Europe, capitalism, Imperialism and so forth. Time of great technological, cultural and so on progress when Europe basically took over the world. Once again, at this time Russia was relatively stable and fully took control of the steppe tribes or migrating tribes near the caucuses and modern day Ukraine. The only real invasion of Europe from outside was either Russia itself or by the Ottomans. But then again, it was Russia who pummelled the Ottomans to non-existence eventually with other European countries having their own benefits in this process.
After that we had the 2nd World war and the Soviet Union which I am not sure how to rate in this context.
And now we finally get to the modern day. Current Russia seems to be disintegrating little by little under Putin. So the main question here is, although Europe is more united compared to any time in its history, is it a process that we should accelerate or prevent at all costs? Currently, if Russia disintegrates then it will the Poles, Estonians, Lithuanians, Romanians, Bulgarians, Greeks standing on the forefront of defence against either the Turks or anything else that might come from beyond. Many people forget that simple existence of Russia keeps Erdogans imperialism in check for example. So what does Pofo think about this topic?
If somebody doesn't know then I am heavily against the disintegration of Russia at all costs as stated in several other topics. As much as a threat Russia is and was through history, it is still a very useful bulwark of sorts. (Not to mention the modern iteration of crysis (Immigration for example) and so on that will repeat)
I do not think that any nation is hopeless to change; however, I think that some nations do require a lot more effort than others to become changed. - Verv