- 04 Apr 2022 19:12
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1) Greece had no role in the Srbrnica "massacre" that went on for 3 years during which the Serbs had signed a lot of the peace agreements offered while the Muslims had rejected them all. The Muslims also never provided a reason for the war they started, nor did you ever provide a justification as to why you refused the Serbs breaking off Bosnia when you started the war to break off Yugoslavia, why are Muslims entitled to separate from Yugoslavia, while the Serbs are not entitled to seperate from Bosnia? Bosnia the country was founded & established by Serbs, not by Bosniak Muslims. The Serbs of Bosnia elevated the Muslims from a 'minority' to a 'constituent nation' and then the Muslims downgraded the Serbs from a 'constituent nation' to a 'minority' by force of arms. The same happened in Kossovo by the Albanians.
2) Around 100 Greek private volunteers took part in operations near Srbrenica at some point during that 3 year period.
3) Greece and Greeks are very proud and not shamed at all for the support they provided to Yugoslavia. My family hosted a Muslim Bosnian child for a 2 year period. The entire nation was on a war-footing and the Yugoslav war has marked my memory. My mother took me to pro-Yugoslav marches & concerts that were a weekly standard affair anyway. The Serbs were having concerts out in the streets defiant & proud while Belgrade was being bombed 20-30 times a day in 15 minute intervals just enough time for the medics to arrive and then be inoculated themselves by banned cluster bombs. The Greeks were doing the same in parallel in Athens and Piraeus, standing by the Serbs in defiance and we do not regret it at all.
4) Helena Smith of the Guardian has been extremely anti-Greek for decades, quite evidently from 99% of her articles, she only writes about Greek misgivings, from Yugoslavia to refugees, to the financial crisis and nothing good to say about anything, not even now when Greece is fully integrated in NATO(unlike back then), so her attitude is by no means pro-nato but deeper and more fundamentally anti-Greek.
Even more sinister than that, Helena Smith's organisation is the one that got caught red-handed manufacturing fake stories of "death camps" which today have been totally discredited, scientifically.
7000 dead over a 3 year period during which the Bosniak Muslims rejected all the peace plans while the Serbs agreed to them.
Sandzak wrote:Greece faces shame of role in Serb massacre
1) Greece had no role in the Srbrnica "massacre" that went on for 3 years during which the Serbs had signed a lot of the peace agreements offered while the Muslims had rejected them all. The Muslims also never provided a reason for the war they started, nor did you ever provide a justification as to why you refused the Serbs breaking off Bosnia when you started the war to break off Yugoslavia, why are Muslims entitled to separate from Yugoslavia, while the Serbs are not entitled to seperate from Bosnia? Bosnia the country was founded & established by Serbs, not by Bosniak Muslims. The Serbs of Bosnia elevated the Muslims from a 'minority' to a 'constituent nation' and then the Muslims downgraded the Serbs from a 'constituent nation' to a 'minority' by force of arms. The same happened in Kossovo by the Albanians.
2) Around 100 Greek private volunteers took part in operations near Srbrenica at some point during that 3 year period.
3) Greece and Greeks are very proud and not shamed at all for the support they provided to Yugoslavia. My family hosted a Muslim Bosnian child for a 2 year period. The entire nation was on a war-footing and the Yugoslav war has marked my memory. My mother took me to pro-Yugoslav marches & concerts that were a weekly standard affair anyway. The Serbs were having concerts out in the streets defiant & proud while Belgrade was being bombed 20-30 times a day in 15 minute intervals just enough time for the medics to arrive and then be inoculated themselves by banned cluster bombs. The Greeks were doing the same in parallel in Athens and Piraeus, standing by the Serbs in defiance and we do not regret it at all.
4) Helena Smith of the Guardian has been extremely anti-Greek for decades, quite evidently from 99% of her articles, she only writes about Greek misgivings, from Yugoslavia to refugees, to the financial crisis and nothing good to say about anything, not even now when Greece is fully integrated in NATO(unlike back then), so her attitude is by no means pro-nato but deeper and more fundamentally anti-Greek.
Even more sinister than that, Helena Smith's organisation is the one that got caught red-handed manufacturing fake stories of "death camps" which today have been totally discredited, scientifically.
we talk about 7000 just in one town.
7000 dead over a 3 year period during which the Bosniak Muslims rejected all the peace plans while the Serbs agreed to them.
Phillip Corwin, former UN Civilian Affairs Coordinator in Bosnia, advisor and contributor to the work of the Srebrenica Research Group[330] said "What happened in Srebrenica was not a single large massacre of Muslims by Serbs, but rather a series of very bloody attacks and counterattacks over a three-year period."[331]
Lewis MacKenzie, former commander of the United Nations Protection Force (UNPROFOR) in Bosnia, was continuing to challenge the description of genocide in 2009 on the grounds firstly that the number of men and boys killed had been exaggerated by a factor of 4 and secondly that transfer of the women and children by bus contradicted the notion of genocide – the women would have been killed first if there had been an intent to destroy the group.
Lewis MacKenzie, former commander of the United Nations Protection Force (UNPROFOR) in Bosnia, was continuing to challenge the description of genocide in 2009 on the grounds firstly that the number of men and boys killed had been exaggerated by a factor of 4 and secondly that transfer of the women and children by bus contradicted the notion of genocide – the women would have been killed first if there had been an intent to destroy the group. Writing in the Journal of Military and Strategic Studies (Vol. 12, Issue 1, Fall 2009), MacKenzie expressed his opinion without reference to the detailed arguments published by the ICTY Trial and Appeal Chambers in the Krstic case judgements published several years earlier and confirmed by the ICJ since.
The director of the Simon Wiesenthal Center office in Israel, Efraim Zuroff, also disagrees that Serb forces had genocidal intent. He explained: "As far as I know, what happened [in Srebrenica] does not [fit] the description or the definition of genocide. I think the decision to call it genocide was made for political reasons. Obviously a tragedy occurred, innocent people lost their lives and their memory should be preserved." Zuroff also called attempts to equate Srebrenica to the Holocaust "horrible" and "absurd", saying: "I wish the Nazis moved aside Jewish women and children before their bloody rampage, instead of murdering them, but that, as we know, did not happen."[340]
On 18 March 1992, all three sides signed the agreement; Alija Izetbegović for the Bosniaks, Radovan Karadžić for the Bosnian Serbs and Mate Boban for the Bosnian Croats. On 28 March 1992, after a meeting with US ambassador to Yugoslavia Warren Zimmermann in Sarajevo, Izetbegović withdrew his signature and declared his opposition to any division of Bosnia.
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