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wat0n wrote:Let's wait and see what happens when you hear about some IAF bombing somewhere :roll:


This will the Americans do... Israel is not a sovereign state because it is entirely dependent of the USA

The Attack was not a declaration of war but a warning, it is time to for a peaceful solution.

I think Iran has now the Bomb or else they would not intervene... Uranium Bombs are simple and do not require tests unlike Plutonium.

I think all peoples should have a state, I respect the Jews who could keep their religion and traditions over 2000 Years in exile, but I am against the occupation of Palestinian land (over the line 1967) and suppression. The Jews should remember how they were treated especially by Europeans.
#15326237
One of the interesting things that was pointed out was how satellite images and in-depth analysis always follow missile strikes in the Ukraine conflict, but this stuff isn't forthcoming when Israel is hit.

This is because the Israeli intelligence and influencer community are very good at forcing people to cooperate with a general silence about their casualties and the actual situation on the ground, and there are absolutely no selective leaks or in-depth military analysis being put out by journalists with inside tracks with military intelligence that can bolster the anti-zionist movement.

That being said, you still see a lot of the independent journalism and content generated from guys on the ground with cell phones that help to puncture the official narrative, plus a lot of quality OSINT analysis.
#15326240
wat0n wrote:I'm pretty sure that if there were videos of any major damage, they'd already be available... Just like on October 7.


There's less of it because the damage is occurring in secure areas (military bases), but it's still out there - I imagine that an IDF conscript recorded this without permission and leaked it to a few friends just to show what was going on, and it unfortunately made its way to the internet.

Israel allowed all manner of October 7th to be widely publicized because it was their 9/11 - it was what justified the massive war in Gaza and now southern Lebanon.

But teven then, the footage of attacks on kibbutzim was more widely circulated, and everywhere was the stupid photograph of Noa Argamani on the back of a motorcycle.

Argamani's social media presence has changed a lot, with her moving from fairly normal person's IG to one that is full of glamor shots meant to launch some career in perhaps modeling or music or just simply being a social media influencer.

This is remarkable because her brand has been being used by Israel a lot since being freed, including the promotion of artistic stylizations of her:



This is inspired by the famous video of her at a rave dancing on the shoulders of someone with her father who is across from her, and being allowed to drop a track after giving a small speech - notably, Argamani is a Goa (psychedelic trance) fan, which is pretty awesome since it's more hardcore than most EDM and quite obscure, and also something that is a specialty of Eretz Israel.



This video, however, was not widely circulated in the media because it really did not sit right with many people. She is very scantily clad (it's a thong bikini), and many point out that her boyfriend is still in captivity while she is dressed like that and out at a rave. Similarly, her father's words about Israel as the "most humane army in the world" weren't soemthing that were echoed endlessly in Western media.

But it is the case that the Israelis are trying to get the most out of her - they sent her to a G7 meeting in Japan to talk with diplomats.

Israel is an interesting nation because they have insane success in public image management while also try lots of angles that fall completely flat or even rub Westerners the wrong way, but these things are rarely capitalized off of to criticize her.
#15326260
Skynet wrote:Israel is not a sovereign state because it is entirely dependent of the USA


:lol: Unfortunately, given the immense power of pro-israel elements in the US it's more the other way around. The largesse given Israel is less an indication of US power over them than their power over us, or our politicians.

The Attack was not a declaration of war but a warning, it is time to for a peaceful solution.


I've seen claims this latest barrage, like the previous one, was just a show. Still, Israel will retaliate. There will never be a final comprehensive peace.

I think Iran has now the Bomb or else they would not intervene…


Na, back in '73 the arabs launched a full-scale military attack despite knowing Israel had the Bomb and they didn't.
#15326330
Skynet wrote:Iran has not yet send its most sophisticated weapon the Fatah-2.

Iran claims to reduce the cost of hypersonic weapons at 100'000 $ per unit...


If the Fatah-2 can’t get through the Iron Dome, they are just wasting their inventory.

They knew what they were firing at Israel couldn’t get through. It was just for show.
#15326338
Skynet wrote:Satellite images draw a different picture:



And how many hundreds of missiles were fired to get that hit? The Iron Dome knocked down most everything and few, if any, Israeli casualties. By contrast, when Israel launches an attack, they can slaughter as many people as they want in Gaza or Lebanon.
#15326444
Hakeer wrote:And how many hundreds of missiles were fired to get that hit?


Iran is said to have fired around 200, or 180.

The Iron Dome knocked down most everything


A "majority" from what I've heard but some got through.

By contrast, when Israel launches an attack, they can slaughter as many people as they want in Gaza or Lebanon.


Right. And it's not just technical ability, it's political carte blanche. Note the US slams Iranian retaliation but not the provocations that forced them to do something, however limited.
#15326453
starman2003 wrote:Iran is said to have fired around 200, or 180.



A "majority" from what I've heard but some got through.



Right. And it's not just technical ability, it's political carte blanche. Note the US slams Iranian retaliation but not the provocations that forced them to do something, however limited.


I look at body counts.

The latest idea is that Israel will blow up oil fields, which would throw the world oil market into chaos right before our election. Biden gently asked Netanyahu not to do it, but he doesn’t listen to Biden.
#15326466
Hakeer wrote:The latest idea is that Israel will blow up oil fields, which would throw the world oil market into chaos right before our election.

Don't you find that hilarious when it's the US that has been supplying the bombs and artillery shells without which there would be no war in Lebanon and no Iranian missile attack?


:lol:
#15326468
Well, the US is also trying to reap the benefits of the weakening of Hezbollah and is trying to see if Hezbollah will be able to keep blocking the naming of a new Lebanese President.

And there are reports saying Nasrallah's replacement is currently unreachable and has been since Israel supposedly bomb a building he was at.
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