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...and then the babbitt dinks destroyed the scientist that discovered the contamination, covered the whole thing up, and continued to distribute the tainted vaccine for another three years without telling anyone...

from The Lancet:


Monkeys, viruses, and vaccines
Tom Curtis

On any list of medical triumphs of the 20th century, polio vaccination is sure to rate a mention. In the 1950s and early 1960s, the shot and sugar-cube vaccines of Jonas Salk, and later Albert Sabin, offered people the first opportunities to protect themselves from a scourge as feared in its day as AIDS is in our own.


Few back then grasped that these vaccines might also be a huge, inadvertent, uncontrolled experiment in interspecies viral transmission. But from 1955 to 1963, according to a 1976 US National Institutes of Health (NIH)-funded study, 98 million Americans alone probably were exposed to polio vaccines contaminated with SV40—a monkey virus that can cause cancers in animals. Now, a July 7 report in New Scientist has raised fears that hundreds of millions of eastern Europeans, Asians, and Africans also may have been exposed to SV40 in Soviet-made polio vaccines.


Michele Carbone of Loyola University Medical Center, Chicago, USA, announced at the 2004 Vaccine Cell Substrates meeting (Rockville, MD) that the Soviet vaccine could have been contaminated until the 1980s.
This is worrying since, despite 44 years of medical debate, epidemiological studies have yet to establish conclusively whether SV40 has or hasn't caused cancers in people.



When Salk developed his vaccine, instead of using human tissues, as did the scientists who won a Nobel Prize for first growing poliovirus in tissue culture, he used minced-up rhesus macaque monkey kidneys, which were remarkably efficient poliovirus factories. Those who sought to supplant Salk's formaldehyde-inactivated vaccine with live, attenuated oral vaccine also used monkey kidney cultures. Despite a manufacturing problem that, at best, left six children who received the vaccine paralysed in the arm, and despite concerns about wild simian viruses, Salk's shots were declared safe and effective after 1954 field trials. The next year, after grudging approval by sceptical government regulators, free Salk shots were made available throughout the USA.


By 1960, scientists and vaccine manufacturers knew that monkey kidneys were sewers of simian viruses. Such contamination often spoiled cultures, including those of an NIH researcher named Bernice Eddy, who worked on vaccine safety. In 1959, fresh from co-reporting that the mouse polyoma virus could cause cancer in other animals, Eddy tested the rhesus monkey kidney substrate used to make polio vaccine. She injected 154 newborn hamsters with extracts of the cell cultures: 109 developed tumours. Next, she ground up three of the tumours and injected the residue into other hamsters. The animals receiving injections from two of the three tumours developed cancers. But when Eddy put the substance back into the monkey cell culture, nothing happened, and she couldn't isolate the suspected virus.


In The Virus and the Vaccine: The True Story of a Cancer-Causing Monkey Virus, Contaminated Polio Vaccine, and the Millions of Americans Exposed, Debbie Bookchin and Jim Schumacher report that in 1960, when Eddy presented her results to her boss, a polio vaccine champion named Joe Smadel, he was livid and disbelieving: “Its implications—that something in the polio vaccine could cause cancer—was an affront to his career.” Her discovery also threatened one of the USA's most important public-health programmes. “By 1960, tens of millions of Americans had been vaccinated against polio, and it was federal health policy that everyone should be vaccinated and continue to receive Salk booster shots.”


Eddy tried to get word out to colleagues but was muzzled and stripped of her vaccine regulatory duties and her laboratory.
However, two Merck researchers, Ben Sweet and Maurice Hilleman, soon identified the rhesus virus later named SV40—the carcinogenic agent that had eluded Eddy. In 1963, US authorities decided to switch to African green monkeys, which are not natural hosts of SV40, to produce polio vaccine. In the mid-1970s, after limited epidemiological studies, authorities concluded that although SV40 caused cancer in hamsters, it didn't seem to do so in people.


Fast forward to the 1990s: Michele Carbone, then at NIH, was working on how SV40 induces cancers in animals. One of these was mesothelioma, a rare cancer of the pleura thought in people to be caused mainly by asbestos. The orthodoxy held that SV40 didn't cause human cancers. Emboldened by a 1992 NEJM paper that found DNA “footprints” of SV40 in childhood brain tumours, Carbone tested human mesothelioma tumour biopsies at the National Cancer Institute: 60% contained SV40 DNA. In most, the monkey virus was active and producing proteins.


He published his results in Oncogene in May, 1994, but the NIH declined to publicise them. Doubters at NIH developed epidemiological evidence that showed no correlation between people who received potentially contaminated polio vaccines and increased cancer rates. Others suggested that the SV40 DNA was a laboratory contaminant. On the first point, the US Institute of Medicine reviewed all published epidemiological studies of SV40 and found them inconclusive. Meanwhile, Carbone had moved to Loyola University. There he discovered how SV40 disables tumour suppressor genes in human mesothelioma, and published his results in Nature Medicine in July, 1997. Studies in Italy, Germany, and the USA also showed associations between SV40 and human cancers.


Between 1997 and early 2003, say Bookchin and Schumacher, more than 25 published studies found SV40 in human mesotheliomas; 16 others found the virus in brain and bone cancers, lymphomas, and other cancers and in kidneys and peripheral blood. As of 2003, SV40 had been found in human tumours in 18 developed countries. Bookchin and Schumacher claim that the rates of SV40-positive tumours seem highest in countries that used the greatest amount of contaminated Salk polio vaccine, including the UK, USA, and Italy.


As the SV40 story illustrates, until scientists know that a virus exists in cell cultures, they can't create a test to detect it and thus can't eliminate it from vaccines grown on those cultures. Might other potentially dangerous simian viruses lurk in primary monkey kidney cultures used for polio vaccines? Such concerns were relieved in January, 2000, when attenuated oral polio vaccine made since the 1950s by Lederle Laboratories on primary monkey kidney cultures was removed from the US market.

[let's just pause here and reflect on the fact that it was left on the market for another 4 decades even though they didn't know if there were other viruses lurking in the vaccine] :knife: :lol:

Since wild-type polio cases had been eradicated in the USA in the mid-1970s, the eight to ten cases of paralysis caused yearly by return to neurovirulence of the live vaccine virus were finally deemed no longer acceptable. The vaccine was replaced with Aventis Pasteur's killed polio vaccine grown on a well characterised VERO monkey cell line. Thus the odds of further contamination by unrecognised viruses are thought to have been greatly reduced.


Bookchin and Schumacher complain that since the era of Bernice Eddy the NIH hierarchy has been consistently dismissive of evidence that SV40 from vaccines may have caused human cancers. Officials who had previously said SV40 was harmless were authorised to assess independent research that challenged that conclusion: “Not surprisingly, they reaffirmed their own previous wisdom." Accepting that SV40 is a human carcinogen, they continue, raises questions about what the government response should be: “A coordinated and extensive search for SV40 in other kinds of tumors, coupled with far greater efforts to study how the virus causes tumors? A crash SV40 screening program among populations most likely to have been infected? … An anti-SV40 vaccination campaign?” The problem, they continue, is that to undertake any of these options the government would have to admit that it should have acted sooner to protect public health.


In The Structure of Scientific Revolutions (University of Chicago Press, 1962) Thomas Kuhn suggests that paradigm shifts don't happen because opponents are converted by evidence, but rather because one generation of investigators and scientific leaders dies and is replaced by another. For credible epidemiological studies confirming whether SV40 from polio vaccines has caused human cancers, we may have to wait until a new generation is put in charge of the USA's health research bureaucracy.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanc ... 40-6736(04)16746-9/fulltext
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So, something happened about 60 years ago and that's your argument against vaccines? :roll:

Realism isn't important to you, is it?

Anyone who disagrees with you is a babbit. We know... :roll: Very childish.
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And then there was the time that Dr. Maurice Hilleman laughed about all those hundreds of millions of people being infected with cancer viruses by the polio vaccine:



Hilleman developed vaccines at the Merck Institute of Therapeutic Research in West Point, Pennsylvania, during the twentieth century. Over the course of his career at Merck, Hilleman created over forty vaccines, making him one of the most prolific developers of vaccine in the twentieth century. Of the fourteen vaccines commonly given to children in the US by 2015, Hilleman was responsible for eight of them: measles, mumps, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, chickenpox, meningitis, pneumonia and Haemophilus influenzae bacteria. Hilleman's most widely used vaccine was his measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine.
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Cutter incident

In 1954, while the NIH was testing the first commercial polio vaccines, Eddy's job was to test the vaccines from five different companies.[5] Testing the vaccines on 18 monkeys, she and her team discovered that the inactivated vaccine manufactured by Cutter Laboratories contained residual live poliovirus, resulting in the monkeys showing polio-like symptoms and paralysis. Eddy reported her findings to William Workman, head of the Laboratory of Biologics Control, but her findings were never given to the vaccine licensing advisory committee.[6] Although then-NIH director William Sebrell was notified, he chose to ignore Eddy's findings and proceeded to license the Cutter vaccine along with the others. Dr. James Shannon, the associate director of the NIH, managed to get the vaccines recalled.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernice_Eddy

On April 12, 1955, following the announcement of the success of the polio vaccine trial, Cutter Laboratories became one of several companies that was recommended to be given a license by the United States government to produce Salk's polio vaccine. In anticipation of the demand for vaccine, the companies had already produced stocks of the vaccine and these were issued once the licenses were signed.

In what became known as the Cutter incident, some lots of the Cutter vaccine—despite passing required safety tests—contained live polio virus in what was supposed to be an inactivated-virus vaccine. Cutter withdrew its vaccine from the market on April 27 after vaccine-associated cases were reported.

The mistake produced 120,000 doses of polio vaccine that contained live polio virus. Of children who received the vaccine, 40,000 developed abortive poliomyelitis (a form of the disease that does not involve the central nervous system), 56 developed paralytic poliomyelitis—and of these, five children died from polio.[2] The exposures led to an epidemic of polio in the families and communities of the affected children, resulting in a further 113 people paralyzed and 5 deaths.[3] The director of the microbiology institute lost his job, as did the equivalent of the assistant secretary for health. Secretary of Health, Education, and Welfare Oveta Culp Hobby stepped down. Dr Sebrell, the director of the NIH, resigned.[4]

Surgeon General Scheele sent Drs. William Tripp and Karl Habel from the NIH to inspect Cutter's Berkeley facilities, question workers, and examine records. After a thorough investigation, they found nothing wrong with Cutter's production methods.[5] A congressional hearing in June 1955 concluded that the problem was primarily the lack of scrutiny from the NIH Laboratory of Biologics Control (and its excessive trust in the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis reports).[4]

A number of civil lawsuits were filed against Cutter Laboratories in subsequent years, the first of which was Gottsdanker v. Cutter Laboratories.[6] The jury found Cutter not negligent, but liable for breach of implied warranty, and awarded the plaintiffs monetary damages. This set a precedent for later lawsuits. All five companies that produced the Salk vaccine in 1955—Eli Lilly, Parke-Davis, Wyeth, Pitman-Moore, and Cutter—had difficulty completely inactivating the polio virus. Three companies other than Cutter were sued, but the cases settled out of court.[7]

The Cutter incident was one of the worst pharmaceutical disasters in US history, and exposed several thousand children to live polio virus on vaccination.[3] The NIH Laboratory of Biologics Control, which had certified the Cutter polio vaccine, had received advance warnings of problems: in 1954, staff member Dr. Bernice Eddy had reported to her superiors that some inoculated monkeys had become paralyzed (pictures were sent as well). William Sebrell, the director of NIH wouldn't hear of such a thing.[4]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cutter_ ... r_incident
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Rancid wrote:Is this supposed to be an argument against vaccination?


Rancid is confused, he doesn't know what to make of this information or what significance it might have but he suspects this is just another crazy anti-vaxxer attack on the miracle of vaccination so he doesn't like it. He doesn't like it one bit. Something is going on here, this anti-vaxxer is up to something. He can feel it. :lol:

Don't fret, Rancid, I'll help you put it all in perspective.

there are two big take aways here:

1) the public health establishment and the vaccine industry was arrogant, reckless, dishonest, and unscrupulous from the very beginning and that unscrupulous, reckless arrogance ended up hurting a lot of people.

and

2) vaccines were never the super effective ultra safe miracle magic bullets the propagandists of Science! told you they were. That heroic mythos they spun was all bullshit and the real history of the technology is a whole lot messier.
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Sivad wrote:Rancid is confused, he doesn't know what to make of this information or what significance it might have but he suspects this is just another crazy anti-vaxxer attack on the miracle of vaccination so he doesn't like it. He doesn't like it one bit. Something is going on here, this anti-vaxxer is up to something. He can feel it.


Sounds like you are the one that is confused. You are assuming a lot with that single question I asked.
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Sivad wrote:1) the public health establishment and the vaccine industry was arrogant, reckless, dishonest, and unscrupulous from the very beginning and that unscrupulous, reckless arrogance ended up hurting a lot of people.


How many people got cancer?

and

2) vaccines were never the super effective ultra safe miracle magic bullets the propagandists of Science! told you they were. That heroic mythos they spun was all bullshit and the real history of the technology is a whole lot messier.


If the argument is that vaccines were not the only cause in the drop of deaths from disease, then yes. But they were a significant factor in reducing infections and thereby reducing deaths.
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Rancid wrote:The vast majority of the things any one of us believes in, is basically blind trust. I'd guess 99%+ of everything we know is based on blind trust in someone else.

That's probably an over-estimate actually. Besides there is a subtle difference between blind trust and cautious trust. Anyway I hope you are not suggesting that blind trust is particularly helpful or to be encouraged?
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SolarCross wrote:I think it is an argument against blind trust.


it's way beyond blind trust, it's deep psycho-social conditioning that most will never come out of. It's not just and unwillingness to think, it's a complete lack of capacity for critical thought. it's planet of the pod people.
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SolarCross wrote:That's probably an over-estimate actually. Besides there is a subtle difference between blind trust and cautious trust. Anyway I hope you are not suggesting that blind trust is particularly helpful or to be encouraged?


I suggested nothing.

To use your terms. People selectively choose what they blindly believe and what they cautiously believe. It's an interesting phenomenon.
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Sivad wrote:it's way beyond blind trust, it's deep psycho-social conditioning that most will never come out of. It's not just and unwillingness to think, it's a complete lack of capacity for critical thought. it's planet of the pod people.



What exact point are you trying to make in this thread? It hasn't been made clear, which is why I asked the initial question.

Is it that vaccines don't work?
Is it vaccines are not perfect?
Is it we should not have blind trust? (I agree)
Is it that we should always have cautious trust? (I agree)
What is it exactly?
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I had polio when I was a kid.

In my thoroughly unhumble opinion, anyone rejecting the vaccine should be required to live in very rural areas where their insanity is less likely to harm others.

Failing to do that should result in a life sentence, no parole, in a qurrantine zone set aside for that purpose.
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@Sivad whose citation said: This is worrying since, despite 44 years of medical debate, epidemiological studies have yet to establish conclusively whether SV40 has or hasn't caused cancers in people.


Ahem. :roll:

What has been established is that nobody dies of polio anymore. But then it would seem that Late and I are the only ones who remember it and its horrible death toll and disability toll.

As late as the 1980's there were 350,000 cases of paralytic polio in the world and it was prevalent in 125 countries. So we set to work on that problem. You know. Those perfidious Public Health people like myself got busy and tricked all of those poor unsuspecting 125 countries into giving the polio vaccines. Well we really screwed up didn't we? Now only three countries had any cases of polio ( Afghanistan, Pakistan and Nigeria) and the total of those cases was 42. So it is within easy reach to eliminate this horrible crippling killer in the next few years.

But we have fearmongering trolls like Sivad who would have this disease reemerge over his completely unproved conspiracy theories. He feels it is necessary to frighten people into dangerous behaviors. But I agree with @stormsmith. Stay home. Keep your children home. Just stay away from the rest of us. We are the rational beings who do not want their children to die unnecessarily. You go ahead Sivad. Some day I will nominate you for a Darwin award.
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Oral polio drops linked to paralysis in India

While India’s oral polio vaccine (OPV) drives have eliminated polio from the country, they have also resulted in over 490,000 cases of paralysis during 2000—2017, says a new study based on national surveillance statistics.

“In the absence of wild polio transmission, it was expected that cases of paralysis would reduce to an acceptable rate of around two per 100,000, but this has not materialised”
Jacob Puliyel, St. Stephen's Hospital
The oral vaccine uses live but weakened poliovirus strains to produce antibodies that protect children from being infected with ‘wild’ or naturally-occurring polio viruses. Mass oral vaccination drives are carried out thrice a year in India to prevent person-to-person transmission of the wild virus and maintain ‘herd immunity’.

Jacob Puliyel, head of paediatrics, St. Stephen’s Hospital, Delhi, and corresponding author of the study published August in the International Journal of Environmental Research and Public Health, says that "the frequency of pulse polio administration was found to be directly or indirectly related to the incidence of non-polio acute flaccid paralysis”.

Although India’s last case of polio was reported in 2011, a surveillance system continues to annually investigate some 50,000 cases of acute flaccid paralysis (AFP) — defined as a sudden onset of paralysis or weakness in any part of the body of a child under 15 years of age.

While no case of AFP has tested positive for polio since 2012, the rate of non-polio paralysis has continued to be unusually high, especially in the northern states of Bihar and Uttar Pradesh, which together have a population of 300 million people.

“In the absence of wild polio transmission, it was expected that cases of paralysis would reduce to an acceptable rate of around two per 100,000, but this has not materialised,” Puliyel tells SciDev.Net. The study found the paralysis rate to be as high as 30 per 100,000 in Bihar and Uttar Pradesh.

The study showed that the number of pulse polio rounds conducted in a state had a "high correlation" with the non-polio paralysis rate. "We found that the… rates in Bihar and Uttar Pradesh were higher in those years when the number of pulse polio rounds conducted were more frequent," says Puliyel.

The study suggests that OPV were responsible for inducing paralysis and speculates that "repeated doses of the live virus vaccine delivered to the intestine may colonise the gut and alter the viral microbiome of the intestine".

A microbiome is formed of an ecological community of friendly or pathogenic microorganisms that share body spaces. Of these, the gut microbiome is known to change quickly over the first two to three years of life and continues to change according to factors such as diet, environment and treatment with antibiotics or oral vaccines.

"While the mechanism involved is speculative, our findings support the hypothesis that the frequency of pulse polio administration is directly or indirectly related to the incidence of non-polio AFP," the report says. "Now that India has been polio-free for over six years, we may be able to reduce non-polio AFP by further reducing pulse polio rounds."

Puliyel says the increase in non-polio AFP was noticed only because of excellent surveillance and meticulous recording of data by government agencies. “The 491,000 additional cases of paralysis would not, otherwise, have been noticed.”

Puliyel and his team members hope that the results of the study will prompt reduction in OPV drives as measure against the relatively high incidence of paralysis in vaccinated children.

https://www.scidev.net/asia-pacific/dis ... india.html

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