@Patrickov
Vaccination is not the only means to prevent death from infection, although I won't argue against the claim that it's probably the most effective way to prevent infection when you cannot (or resist to) avoid social contact.
This is untrue on two levels. First, as a practical matter, the kind of isolation you imagine really doesn't exist. There is no doubt that limiting exposure is a good idea but if you so much as have your groceries delivered you are at some risk. One group of infections in China was definitively traced to the ventilation system in an apartment building.
The second flaw in your argument is that you posit that vaccination prevents infection. It kinda' doesn't. What is does is very dramatically reduces the chances of being symptomatic or in having a serious outcome from your infection.
Mind you, I am not a social person, so not vaccinating hadn't hurt me for the past year, and probably wouldn't hurt me in the foreseeable future. I only got jabbed because I don't want to be forced into bi-weekly testing and (eventually) get fired (instead of me taking control and quitting, that is).
No. Just no. What you were for that year, was lucky. I grant that your lifestyle reduced risk but it did not eliminate it.
For those choosing not to vaccinate (a path I definitely would continue if my company hadn't handed out a punitive policy), if they catch the disease and die, they probably also don't {wear mask / keep social distance / take care of their personal hygiene}. IMHO these latter procedures are crucial in keeping oneself from infection, vaccinated or not
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If your point is that even vaccinated people should wear masks, wash their hands frequently, and practice social distancing then I agree. I disagree with your idea that vaccination is anything like equal to these other things. It is not. What you have to get your head wrapped around is that unless you sequester yourself for life you will get this disease some day. Why you think that the risk of going without vaccination is somehow "worth it" speaks to your mental state and intelligence. And not favorably.
Then there is this. Clearly your reluctance to be vaccinated points to your disdain for science in favor of hubris. Here is why. If we do not stamp out this disease through vaccination and the achievement of something close to herd immunity, it will almost certainly spin off a variant that is even more deadly. We can see this with influenza, a disease not nearly as dangerous as Covid. I get that you are a special snowflake and that the world revolves around your ass, but just for show, how about doing something for mankind. The day that I was vaccinated I reduced dramatically the possibility that I might be the human Petri dish that would bring down civilization. (Or maybe another ten thousand a day like now.)
In fact, there are cases of infection despite full vaccination, which means vaccination is NOT as reliable as the government and / or you guys claim.
Nonsense. It is you who does not understand the science. Nobody, government or otherwise, has been saying that it is 100% effective. If that is what you understand then you are mistaken. What every scientist I know is saying is that vaccination reduces spread of the disease and dramatically reduces the possibility of adverse outcomes for those who become infected. That is true.
I will definitely "deliberately attempt to convince others not to be vaccinated" if the circumstances allow it, but that doesn't mean I would want them to expose themselves to the virus by not following the other necessary procedures.
Then the nicest thing I can say about you is that you are mentally ill. You are not a scientist, you want to play God. You are a dangerous fool.
Never trust your government when they try to force something on you.
You mean like speed limits, car licensing, taxes, workplace safety rules, food safety rules...There is a good one. Let's talk about that. Do you complain because the people who prepare your food are "forced by the government" to practice food safety? Give us about 100 words on why you think food safety rules should be eliminated. I can't wait.
Anyone will be forced into submission at some point, but that doesn't mean I agree with the agenda.
Garbage. In this case I think that you should consider three points about your statement:
1. You have yet to define this "agenda" you allege. What agenda? To what purpose? Who benefits from this agenda? (Pro tip. Do not mention drug companies as I will instantly demolish that idea as preposterous.)
2. The fact that one accepts constraints the society in which he/she lives imposes for the benefit of itself and its people does not qualify for the example of outrageous hyperbole you use when asserting they have been "forced into submission". Tell me another example of being "forced into submission" by your government.
3. Even if we accept mandatory vaccination as an intrusion into ones convenience (for that is all that it is) that is not your argument. You are advocating convincing people to not get vaccinated even in the absence of such a mandate. So we can dismiss that whole part of your argument as irrelevant.
I have handled you roughly here and you deserve it. People like you are more than misinformed. You (all) represent a existential threat not only to yourselves, but to others and society in general.
Spend some time not talking (typing) and just think for awhile. Read the literature that opposes your opinion. Then when you can present a cogent argument for your position get back to us. I don't think you will be able to do that.