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In the news they've been running stories of individuals who publicly denounced the vaccine but then ended up dying from Covid.
Well, has there been any stories of the opposite? those who publicly denounced those who are against the vaccine but then ended up dying from the vaccine.
It appears there has.

https://thecovidblog.com/2021/09/22/kar ... injection/

Karen Croake Heisler: 67-year-old former Notre Dame professor says "damn the unvaccinated", dead 12 days after third Pfizer mRNA injection

Orlando, Florida - A 67-year-old former Notre Dame professor is dead, in what is fast-becoming a pattern of quick deaths after "booster" shots.

Mrs. Karen Croake Heisler received her first dose of Pfizer mRNA vaccine on January 13, according to her Twitter account. Her age allowed her to be one of the first to receive the injections in December and January. It's unclear when she received the second injection. But Mrs. Heisler declared on April 9 that she and her husband suffered only sore arms after their second injections.

She wrote in a post on March 13: "If you have no intentions of wearing a mask or getting the vaccine, please stay home until you come to your senses. You have no right or 'freedom' to endanger the lives of your family, friends, co-workers, health professionals, teachers and your community. You are selfish."

On September 7, Mrs. Heisler made it known that she had just received her third Covid vaccine.

Her health apparently deteriorated very quickly thereafter. Mrs. Heisler tweeted from Orlando Regional Medical Center on September 14. She was there to see a cardiologist. Mrs. Heisler tweeted three times that day, with all of her Twitter posts blaming the "unvaccinated" for her deteriorating health, in one of them she even wrote "damn the unvaccinated."​

Mrs. Heisler died on September 19. An obituary claimed it was from "cancer-related complications". What that actually meant is that she died from heart problems, which people assumed must have resulted from cancer that she already had.
What else could have brought on her sudden mysterious fatal heart condition?


The point of this story is not to tell us anything about the risks of the vaccine compared to not getting the vaccine. Anecdotal stories do not tell us anything about the statistics. But what it does say is that there are substantial numbers of people who have died from the vaccine. Otherwise something like this would be a very rare coincidence. Which is exactly what the media has been trying to get people to think by covering those stories.
#15192789
:lol: Pure supposition on your part, and for the idiots who linked this to the vaccines, @Puffer Fish

This is the problem with people trying to link every death to the vaccines. They are inevitably proven to be fools for believing it.

She had cancer, FFS. That means that there is a 99.9999% chance that she died from that, and not a 3rd vaccination.
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My house mate had to have emergency heart treatment three days after taking the vaccine. I know many people who have had Covid without vaccination, not one of them regretted not being vaccinated. On the other hand I know a number of people who have taken the vaccine who regretted it. For the old, the sick and the obese, taking the vaccine may well be a rational choice to extend life expectancy. But for the young these vaccines are very definitely experimental. We won't know for decades about their long term effects. And if the Lock Down Liberals have their way we will never know. Even questioning the vaccines is becoming like criticising Stalin in Soviet Russia or questioning Adolph Hitler's leadership in Nazi Germany.
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Cancer patients usually don't just suddenly die of heart conditions out of nowhere.

She wrote about her CARDIOLOGIST trying to admit her to the hospital.
cardiologist = doctor who specializes dealing with the heart

I wonder if the cancer medications she was on might have resulted in a fatal combination with the third dose of the vaccine. Cancer medications make it more difficult for the body to heal or regrow new cells. There could have been an interplay between the cancer medications and myocarditis from the vaccine. Together combined, both might have been too much for her heart to handle.

If she already had strain on her heart from some other health condition, then something like heart-inflaming spike protein from the vaccine may have been enough to push things over the edge.


The woman, in her Tweets, also blamed the unvaccinated for the hospital being overcrowded.

However, I actually took the trouble of looking up data from that specific hospital she was admitted to, from the week preceding September 17, which is when she arrived at the hospital.
Orlando Health Regional Medical Center
1,462 out of the 5,653 patients at the hospital (25.8%) tested positive for Covid. However, only 134 of them were actually admitted to the hospital for Covid, while a total of 242 were hospitalized for Covid during that time. (The hospital has over 1,800 beds available)
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Puffer Fish wrote:The woman, in her Tweets, also blamed the unvaccinated for the hospital being overcrowded.

However, I actually took the trouble of looking up data from that specific hospital she was admitted to, from the week preceding September 17, which is when she arrived at the hospital.
Orlando Health Regional Medical Center
1,462 out of the 5,653 patients at the hospital (25.8%) tested positive for Covid. However, only 134 of them were actually admitted to the hospital for Covid, while a total of 242 were hospitalized for Covid during that time. (The hospital has over 1,800 beds available)


What w1s the ICU capacity and how many ICU beds were being taken ip by the unvaccinated.

Where I live, the percentage of ICU beds taken up by the unvaccinated is often more than 100%.

What that means is that extra resources are pulled in to make more ICU beds for the unvaxxed.
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Puffer Fish wrote:



The point of this story is not to tell us anything about the risks of the vaccine compared to not getting the vaccine. Anecdotal stories do not tell us anything about the statistics.

But what it does say is that there are substantial numbers of people who have died from the vaccine.



You didn't just contradict yourself, you did it in a way that tells us you don't know how to use statistics, or how to keep science separate from anecdotal stories...
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Cancer patients usually don't just suddenly die of heart conditions out of nowhere.


Well let's look at your statement.

First she didn't die "suddenly" at all. She died several days after being admitted to the hospital by a cardiologist for treatment of heart disease.

We do not know if she even had a "heart condition" prior to visiting or, more likely, being referred to cardiology.

So now that we have done away with your hyperbole abut "suddenly" and "out of nowhere" let's have some facts, shall we?

Actually cancer patients die of heart diseases quite frequently. Cardio toxicity causing Pericarditis congestive heart failure, valve issues, clots, hypertension, and so on are not that uncommon.

Heart disease is the leading cause of death in women of all ages. Cancer followed by heart disease are the leading causes of death in women of her age.

But what about women with cancer? Well @Puffer Fish you will be pleased to know that, depending on the kind of cancer she had, between 13% and 21% of cancer patients die of heart disease.

So we have an elderly woman. Cancer patient of some kind. She exhibits heart related problems which are not at all uncommon for women of her age. She has had cancer and one presumes treatment for it which could exacerbate or even directly cause her heart disease. She is admitted to the hospital and dies from "cancer related disease".

As for how busy the hospital is? Irrelevant to her care. She was apparently in the hospital for 5 days before dying, and that was 12 days after getting the vaccine.

Now if you had a completely robust woman with no comorbidity, younger, non-smoker, exercises, proper weight, who got the booster and then rapidly got sick and died I might be interested in knowing what the deal was.

As of July we had administered 338,000,000 doses of vaccine. The VAERS system, which requires mandatory reporting of deaths after vaccine administration, showed the system it had received 6027 reports of death. This is a death rate of 0.0018% of people who had received the vaccine. And this is not at all to mean that 6027 people died of the vaccine. Indeed the number of people who have been confirmed to have died as a direct result of the vaccine is.....wait for it....drum roll.... maybe none. We don't really know. In one study we reviewed early on not even any of the cases of anaphylaxis had died. Suffice it to say that very seriously, by far and away, the most dangerous things you do on the days after you receive vaccine for covid include eating, driving, walking, being in your home, owning a dog, or making love.

This is a bullshit story that should not even peak our interest. Idiots have taken the ball and run with it on this one. Do try to get a grip on your irrational fears and if you can't manage to do that at least have the kindness and humanity not to try to kill other people to make yourself feel better.

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