benpenguin wrote:Abused? No, anybody who tries to stop violence (Towards blue thugs) is decried "左膠" (Leftist idiots) and mocked, and any sympathy towards any mainland person is denounced unless they also announce their hatred to CCP/China. I believe equality is a cornerstone of leftist ideology, and "Hong Kongers first" is fundamentally right wing. The true leftist opposition are the ones who wanted to spread democracy to China, and believe firmly in separating opposition towards CCP and China. They are now called "大中華膠" (Greater China idiots) and I am not sure they exist anymore.
With all due respect I stopped reading at the eleventh word. If even My Friend denounce pro-Beijing militant people as "blue thugs" then the mockery against whoever defending their (or their masters') abuse would be justified.
I consider myself closer to a Greater China Idiot than many would believe. As I said multiple times before, I think making China a more acceptable and just place to live is the ultimate solution. The only point I deviate from most other "Greater China Idiots" is that I believe Western Imperialism to be the best way to achieve this.
I insist that HK independence is irrelevant to the real issue. If we look at how migration problem affect developed countries, it is easy to see, unless the places of origin are sufficiently improved, the migration and lack of
Lebensraum issue will not go away.
benpenguin wrote:I know what you will say, about how Chinese has been brainwashed beyond redemption and used by the CCP regime - I mostly disagree but understand why you take your position. Again, nothing wrong about being right wing, (Although very wrong to me for witch hunting China) it's simply the loyalties we decide to take that's fundamentally decides which side we are on.
Perhaps surprisingly, I have moved away from that somewhat. It is insulting to both the said people, as well as
my own intelligence (no matter how lacking it is), by believing them being brainwashed by the Government. I now rather believe that the society and the people molded each other in a positive feedback loop.
benpenguin wrote:It's just that in mainstream Western politics, right wing is poisoned grounds. Hong Kongers understand the Western mentality well enough to minimize right wing speak in English communications.
I am not sure. If right wing is so poisoned Trump, the Brazil president (forgot his name) and some other populists would not have won. However it is true that the most vocal and accessible media (like the Guardian) are incredibly anti-right-wing.
(On a side note: British media often denounce Corbyn for apparently appeasing Antisemitism, which, because of its adoption by Nazism, used to be regarded as right-wing. IMHO the Israel regime has become a rather right-wing entity {e.g. reactionary and expansionist} itself, that anti-Zionism or even Antisemitism has become a left-wing thing instead of a right-wing thing)
benpenguin wrote:Their job to serve as a community administrator - and there's nothing to determine whether they are left or right wing yet?
Pan-democratic candidates, especially for those younger ones, like to handle matters in a cooperative manner. In other words they try to build
communes out of the constituencies they contest. IMHO this is Leftist.
benpenguin wrote:Now I understand you are not the typical localist extremist but you are still right wing. Trump, despite the media hatred, is your perfect ally. There is nothing about his "true colors" that you need fear. The protesters may use his position against China - the best political anchor he has, and he will use you guys as a bargaining chip on the trade talks, an achilles heels to squeeze China. His opponents in White house wants him to shift resources away from China, and draw focus back to Syria/Iran/Russia - he is key to making sure that doesn't happen. Ideologically you are more or less aligned (America first anyone?), I see little chance of great conflict between the trump administration and HK opposition. Pray he doesn't get impeached.
IMHO his true colours is that he only cares business of himself or his backers. Of course there will be little conflict between him and the protesters, because he doesn't (and frankly, shouldn't) give a damn.
I secretly laugh at any graffiti featuring Trump on the streets, but by extension I also laugh at whoever attempting to make a big deal of it. Taking such a thing seriously is, IMHO, incredibly stupid.