Suntzu wrote:Yeah, Switzerland made a mistake. A country has no obligation to take any immigrants. Take a look a Japan and Korea. A country has the right to impose conditions on immigrants. These folks were immigrants from Turkey.
Your right. If they can't handle different cultural values, one must wonder why they did it in the first place.
noemon wrote:@foxdemon I think you are exaggerating. The Swiss school imposed a fine to a Muslim family who refused to send their daughters to swimming classes, the parents claimed that girls swimming with boys interfered with their religion and so the parents were given the option to dress their girls in burkinis to accommodate their religious sensitivities but they still refused.
The Muslim family then took the school to Court and lost every case in every Swiss court and then they decided to take them them to the ECHR who confirmed the decisions of the Swiss courts. Evoking religion seems quite arbitrary in this parent's case and this kind of arbitrariness should not be sanctioned, otherwise anyone would evoke religion to get out of anything, there must certainly be a line of valid religious concerns and invalid ones. These people are not being prevented from their right to worship which is essentially what religious freedom is all about. They are being held to the same standard that any Swiss parent would be if they prevented their children from such activities. This is equality before the law.
One needs to distigish between big things and little things. Accomidating conservative values by organising girl only swimming classes, or just for Muslims girls so it doesn't mean exclusion, is a little thing.
A big thing would be something like terrorism or organised crime, which must be weeded out and destroyed.
If a nation is going to accept immigrants in any number, then it does need to accept some accomodation to those immigrants ways will be required. Consider Western expats in Asian countries. They aren't expected to give up on their culture and pretend to be Asian. Furthermore, the sensible Muslim countries allow non-Muslims to consume alcohol. So I think it is better to accept the little things and leave people be. The big things, threatening others, destabilising gsociety and the state, well then authoritarian practices are justifiable.