- 26 Nov 2018 13:57
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Not necessarily. Nato lives not only in a military realm but also in political realm. NATO can't keep expanding forever until it consumes all. Also such an expansion in to Ukraine is potentially very hazardous for the well being of NATO members themselves. Ukraine is a tough question because the more we keep expanding closer to Russia, the more Russia will scream that NATO is surrounding it, the more Russia will be willing to do a pushback (Military if needed) to stop this from happening. You know, when somebody is cornered and has no chance but to fight back then he will fight back even if it is suicidal. So Ukraine is a very complicated question in this regard. It is a territory that Russia considers part of its core territory. Not just Russian elite but also the Russian people.
Let us pretend the US lost the cold war and also collapsed to a degree with an independent Texas. Now Warshaw Pact is trying to expand in to Texas. How would it make you feel? This is the kind of situation Russian leadership/Russian people find themselves in right now. (Note i am not saying this is right or wrong. I am just trying to put me in the shoes of Russia to a degree)
I do not think that any nation is hopeless to change; however, I think that some nations do require a lot more effort than others to become changed. - Verv
One Degree wrote:In other words, NATO is chickenshit and would rather sacrifice an autonomous country than confront Russia?
Why ally with someone if Russia doesn’t want you to? Pretty pathetic moral superiority for the self acclaimed morally superior.
Not necessarily. Nato lives not only in a military realm but also in political realm. NATO can't keep expanding forever until it consumes all. Also such an expansion in to Ukraine is potentially very hazardous for the well being of NATO members themselves. Ukraine is a tough question because the more we keep expanding closer to Russia, the more Russia will scream that NATO is surrounding it, the more Russia will be willing to do a pushback (Military if needed) to stop this from happening. You know, when somebody is cornered and has no chance but to fight back then he will fight back even if it is suicidal. So Ukraine is a very complicated question in this regard. It is a territory that Russia considers part of its core territory. Not just Russian elite but also the Russian people.
Let us pretend the US lost the cold war and also collapsed to a degree with an independent Texas. Now Warshaw Pact is trying to expand in to Texas. How would it make you feel? This is the kind of situation Russian leadership/Russian people find themselves in right now. (Note i am not saying this is right or wrong. I am just trying to put me in the shoes of Russia to a degree)
I do not think that any nation is hopeless to change; however, I think that some nations do require a lot more effort than others to become changed. - Verv