noemon wrote:Of course he did not "criticise" them as you claim, he told them to "shut up and go back wherever they came from". If them 4 had told the same thing to Trump you would be crying and whining for years as "anti-white racism".
My politics involve trying to destroy the political correctness promoted by the establishment. So I quite enjoy things like the squad calling Nancy Pelosi or Joe Biden racist. Biden, Pelosi, et. al. are reaping what they have sown. While I enjoy the squad calling Pelosi and Biden "racist," I do not think Pelosi and Biden are particularly racist either. That is to say, I do not agree with anything the squad is saying. I just enjoy the squad's disruptive actions. That is why I wouldn't be crying for years, because the squad is furthering my objectives of destroying the current establishment. It's also why I find Teresa May's comments laughable--although, Trump hasn't called her a 'stone cold loser' in response as far as I know. I'm sure he'll get in his parting shot too after she steps down.
Here is what Trump actually said where the establishment is dropping as much context as possible to call him racist:
At no point did Trump tell anyone to "shut up." That is a lie. Trump also didn't tell the squad to go back where they came from and stay there. Trump didn't even mention any of them by name. Trump told them to go back and fix those places, then come back and show us how it is done. In other words, demonstrate your effectiveness with your ideology somewhere else and then come and try it here once you have succeeded--which it won't, because socialism fails by design. It's really easy to debate what Trump said when you go off of what Trump actually said, rather than some distorted media representation of what he said. This is why Trump wins, because he makes you look like a liar to undecided voters among other things.
Where does he mention race anywhere in his comments? Nowhere. That's where. That's just all media lies.
noemon wrote:a) Evidence required.
b) Even if true, 2 wrongs do not make a right.
If you've been following Trump's tweets, that is what he has been talking about and it is already well known in the United States what AOC, Ilhan Omar, Ayanna Pressley and Rashida Tlaib have been saying. The fact that the media you follow doesn't cover their racially tinged dialogue is your problem, not mine.
In response to AOCs constant claims that ICE runs concentration camps similar to the Nazis, Trump tweets:
noemon wrote:The "I have Black friends-I can say whatever racist thing I want with impunity" is a fallacious line of reasoning, that you yourself do not even believe for a second.
In America, we have freedom of speech. You can say whatever you want in America provided you are not using speech in a way that directly suborns others to unlawful behavior or otherwise incites riot or disorder. Trolling is certainly allowed, and that is what Trump is doing. Clearly, you fell for it hook, line and sinker. That's what he wanted you do do.
noemon wrote:You were accusing a white person for anti-white racism just yesterday, in fact you are accusing a white person for anti-white racism in this very post.
I'm not sure how I took over your editor and identified and posted as you. However, you don't seem to have any interest in making sense.
noemon wrote:This is pure gold, Trump gets a pass to abuse ethnic-minorities in Congress because he has Black friends, but white SpecialOlympian is a racist for satirising the pathetic logic of white supremacists.
The reality is we don't really know who or what SpecialOlympian is. He claims to be black, gay, and a CFA charter holder at a penthouse investment firm in LA where he can never be fired, because of his minority status. He very well could be white for all any of us know. Perhaps you know something we don't know. Personally, I really don't care. I was just noting that you were a-okay with comments about exterminating white people coming from SpecialOlympian because you believe he is white and not black and gay. The reality is that we are not the NSA, so we do not get to learn much more than someone's IP address and where it originates, as Libertarian353 and all his alternate identities aptly demonstrated.
Trump clearly wasn't abusing ethnic minorities in Congress either. The whole point of Trump's trolling is to use the left wing media to make his points, which is how he won in 2016.
noemon wrote:First of all, last time you were shown evidence of Trump's racism. You ignored it.
This has been argued ad inifinitum
. Presenting evidence of Trump's bigotry doesn't mean we all reach the verdict you are hoping for. The Trumps never admitted to discriminating against anyone in housing. As I have said many times now, this is how the media tries to "define" a person. It is effective against unknown quantities. It is not effective against known quantities like Trump if they fight back, and Trump always fights back.
noemon wrote:Second, this is about his latest tweets which are very blatantly racist and trying to argue otherwise merely shows that you are trying to change the definitions so that you can justify racism.
Trump's tweets are calling out members of the squad like AOC for calling ICE detention centers "concentration camps" to equate them with the Holocaust and like calling out Ilhan Omar for her comments about Jews and Israelis--her "all about the Benjamins" racial/ethnic tropes. In point of fact, Trump is highlighting the hypocrisy of the left on racism. You are just trying to rely on "political correctness" to silence Trump for reasons that I don't understand as he has already demonstrated how to beat PC tactics in 2016 with such aplomb that it is amazing that anyone thinks there is still merit to political correctness.
noemon wrote:At this point it is not even about Trump who has already been trashed by the House. But rather about those who are trying to normalise such racist behaviour.
noemon wrote:What he is doing is not that amazing, he is using racism to rally his supporters, like many others before him and like many others will do the same after him. The fact that this is the only thing left for him is quite sad.
You fell for it hook, line and sinker...
Zionist Nationalist wrote:its not that easy you cant say anything bad about non white person since you are instantly being labeled as racist
Trump knew that this reaction was coming before he said it. He did it by design to demonstrate the "you can't criticize non-whites even when they criticize you unfairly" point of political correctness. That they lost the 2016 election on this strategy and are doubling down on it is amazing to me.
Zionist Nationalist wrote:recently I read about a clash between AOC and pelosi and AOC said to her that she is targeting a woman of colour
AOC did imply Pelosi was racist. That's what makes it funny, because Trump defended Pelosi, but Pelosi turned on Trump for the same thing and called him a racist.
Godstud wrote:Him getting media attention for this is his own fault, for being such a jackass.
The whole point of it is to get media attention. For Trump, there is no such thing as bad press. He doesn't want your approval. He wants your attention, and he got it.
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