[skinster]

Maybe Taiwan avoided crisis in spite of China links partly because they hadn't sucked up to China like Italy had. How about that?

There doesn't seem to be a crisis in China like there once was considering how China has dealt with coronvirus.

Italy sucked up how again? If you mean Italy decided to work with China and therefore Italians deserve to suffer, fine. But at least some states Italy works with are loyal. Why are you upset?

[Beren]

Why are you upset?

Who's upset? Both Italy and Serbia should be obviously grateful for China's help against the disease they've got from them while denouncing Europeans for not helping because they're suffering from the disease as well. God bless the Chinese for their willingness and abundant capacities to help their friends and allies!

[skinster]

At least they're getting help from somewhere. What jerks they are for displaying gratitude!

[Beren]

At least they're getting help from somewhere. What jerks they are for displaying gratitude!

They're jerks for displaying contempt for those who have the same kind of problems as they do, otherwise they're just vassals being grateful for the help of their overlords who infected them and the rest of the world.

[skinster]

They only displayed contempt (if you want to call it that) for the governments who don't give a shit, which seems like a natural response. Why are you upset?

[Beren]

They only displayed contempt for the governments who don't give a shit, which seems like a natural response. Why are you upset?

I could be upset only because you're full of shit, if I weren't used to it.

[Rich]

https://twitter.com/hausofIau/status/1239239961288851456?s=20

Really Skinster where on earth do you find the retards that write these tweets? Production comes from a combination of labour and capital. people without capital can produce very little.

[skinster]

I mean it is a thing that people in Sab's country were queuing up to buy weed, why is that upsetting you, Rich?

[Verv]

This probably deserves its own thread or perhaps has beenmentioned elsewhere:

Taiwan is blaming the World Health Organization’s relationship with China for its failure to act on early warnings of human-to-human transmission of coronavirus.

Taiwanese health officials alerted WHO of the infectivity of coronavirus in late December 2019, but the organization failed to report the claims to other countries, according to a Financial Times report.

Weeks after receiving Taiwan’s warning, on Jan. 14, WHO repeated China’s claim that coronavirus was not contagious among humans. (RELATED: FLASHBACK Jan. 14: WHO Tells Everyone Don’t Worry Because China Says Coronavirus Isn’t Contagious)

Daily Caller

[Thunderhawk]

This probably deserves its own thread or perhaps has beenmentioned elsewhere:

Taiwan is blaming the World Health Organization’s relationship with China for its failure to act on early warnings of human-to-human transmission of coronavirus.

Taiwanese health officials alerted WHO of the infectivity of coronavirus in late December 2019, but the organization failed to report the claims to other countries, according to a Financial Times report.

Weeks after receiving Taiwan’s warning, on Jan. 14, WHO repeated China’s claim that coronavirus was not contagious among humans. (RELATED: FLASHBACK Jan. 14: WHO Tells Everyone Don’t Worry Because China Says Coronavirus Isn’t Contagious)

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WHO made a comment, trusting China's actions. That has come back to tarnish WHO's reputation. If WHO doesn't act skeptically towards China, others will learn to not trust WHO.

[Donna]

Another curiosity of the pandemic is how little it is spreading in India (less than 400 cases and only 7 deaths), where the average temperature right now is around 35 C. It does make you wonder if warmer weather will have a retardant effect on the spread of the virus.

[late]

Another curiosity of the pandemic is how little it is spreading in India (less than 400 cases and only 7 deaths), where the average temperature right now is around 35 C. It does make you wonder if warmer weather will have a retardant effect on the spread of the virus.

I wouldn't bet on it.

They haven't done a lot of testing so far. The population density is also quite high. If they don't resort to extreme measures, and I doubt they can, this could get very bad.

[Verv]

I think that Donna has a point and so does late.

But my take is that...

Those in India who have gotten it, undoubtedly got it abroad, and they are socially responsible citizens who probably came forward early and were working to cooperate with the authorities. I think none of them wants to be the one who is responsible for the virus getting out of control in India.

And so, the small numbers of people who went abroad and returned were self-quarantining and reporting a lot, which has kept the numbers low for a long time... And we may be about to see major problems. But, then again, as Donna said, it may be the case that the heat makes it spread less.

... yet, it is starting to spread a lot in places like Brazil, Malaysia, and India's neighbor, Pakistan, and I think that we will see it get worse because the cat may be out of the bag there.

[Ter]

It does make you wonder if warmer weather will have a retardant effect on the spread of the virus.

I think those rumours have a retardant effect on the gullible.

[Patrickov]

Another curiosity of the pandemic is how little it is spreading in India...

Frankly I do not believe that. Maybe India does not have sufficient ability or resources to test their sick enough. Maybe someone is suppressing information there.

EDIT: Oops. Member late has stated that. My bad.

[Rancid]

WHO made a comment, trusting China's actions. That has come back to tarnish WHO's reputation. If WHO doesn't act skeptically towards China, others will learn to not trust WHO.

The problem is, the WHO has no choice but to play China's game, as China holds the cards/power, and most of all, data. Can we really blame the WHO?

Another curiosity of the pandemic is how little it is spreading in India (less than 400 cases and only 7 deaths), where the average temperature right now is around 35 C. It does make you wonder if warmer weather will have a retardant effect on the spread of the virus.

I was reading about this. The upshot is, they are not testing. That's why their "cases" are low.

[Patrickov]

The problem is, the WHO has no choice but to play China's game, as China holds the cards/power, and most of all, data. Can we really blame the WHO?

Agree to some extent. In fact, I blame the UN as a whole. The rules and the institutions were made when most of the places in the world now are not even independent and when those places gained independence problems arise. Many of them simply are not advanced enough to uphold the organisation's principles against biggie (or biggie wannabe's) manipulation.

Call me a tyrant or racist if that's the case, but if the voters are not up to standard I often consider removing (or at least suspending) substandard voters first.

[Rancid]

Call me a tyrant or racist if that's the case, but if the voters are not up to standard I often consider removing (or at least suspending) substandard voters first.

Preaching to the choir. I believe we should have an intelligence test at each voting booth. you have to pass it, before you are allowed to vote.

[Patrickov]

Preaching to the choir. I believe we should have an intelligence test at each voting booth. you have to pass it, before you are allowed to vote.

Agree in principle, but I admit technically it's not yet possible to conduct such a test in an entirely fair manner. Traditionally when such filtering got introduced the democracy quickly descended into oligarchy.

Especially when Down Syndrome is widely believed to hamper intelligence but there seem to be cases that some people with it are capable for government offices, not just voting.

[Rancid]

Agree in principle, but I admit technically it's not yet possible to conduct such a test in an entirely fair manner. Traditionally when such filtering got introduced the democracy quickly descended into oligarchy.

Especially when Down Syndrome is widely believed to hamper intelligence but there seem to be cases that some people with it are capable for government offices, not just voting.

Your right, I agree. That is the tragedy in all of this.
There is no way to limit who can participate in a democracy in a way that doesn't undermine the very concept of democracy.