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Wuhan lab was performing coronavirus experiments on bats from the caves where the disease is believed to have originated - with a £3m grant from the US

Wuhan Institute of Virology undertook coronavirus experiments on bats

They were captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan

Sequencing of the Covid-19 genome has traced it to bats from Yunnan's caves

Accident at the laboratory in the Chinese city was 'no longer being discounted'


The laboratory at the centre of scrutiny over the pandemic has been carrying out research on bats from the cave which scientists believe is the original source of the devastating outbreak.

Documents obtained by The Mail on Sunday show the Wuhan Institute of Virology undertook coronavirus experiments on mammals captured more than 1,000 miles away in Yunnan – funded by a $3.7 million grant from the US government.

Sequencing of the Covid-19 genome has traced it to bats found in Yunnan's caves

It comes after this newspaper revealed last week that Ministers here now fear that the pandemic could have been caused by a virus leaking from the institute

Senior Government sources said that while 'the balance of scientific advice' was still that the deadly virus was first transmitted to humans from a live animal market in Wuhan, an accident at the laboratory in the Chinese city was 'no longer being discounted'.

According to one unverified claim, scientists at the institute could have become infected after being sprayed with blood containing the virus, and then passed it on to the local community.

Now The Mail on Sunday has learned that scientists there experimented on bats as part of a project funded by the US National Institutes of Health, which continues to licence the Wuhan laboratory to receive American money for experiments.

Results of the research were published in November 2017 under the heading: 'Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus.'

The exercise was summarised as: 'Bats in a cave in Yunnan, China were captured and sampled for coronaviruses used for lab experiments.

'All sampling procedures were performed by veterinarians with approval from the Animal Ethics Committee of the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

'Bat samplings were conducted ten times from April 2011 to October 2015 at different seasons in their natural habitat at a single location (cave) in Kunming, Yunnan Province, China. Bats were trapped and faecal swab samples were collected.'

Another study, published in April 2018, was titled 'fatal swine acute diarrhoea syndrome caused by an HKU2-related coronavirus of bat origin' and described the research as such: 'Following a 2016 bat-related coronavirus outbreak on Chinese pig farms, bats were captured in a cave and samples were taken.

Experimenters grew the virus in a lab and injected it into three-day-old piglets. Intestinal samples from sick piglets were ground up and fed to other piglets as well.'

Senior Ministers say that while the latest intelligence does not dispute the virus was 'zoonotic' – originating in animals – it no longer rules out that the virus first spread to humans after leaking from a Wuhan laboratory.

Last week, further doubt was cast on the animal market theory after Cao Bin, a doctor at the Wuhan Jinyintan Hospital, highlighted research showing that 13 of the first 41 patients diagnosed with the infection had not had any contact with the market. 'It seems clear that the seafood market is not the only origin of the virus,' he said.

The £30 million Wuhan Institute of Virology, the most advanced laboratory of its type on the Chinese mainland, is based ten miles from the now infamous wildlife market.

Last night, Anthony Bellotti, president of the US pressure group White Coat Waste, condemned his government for spending tax dollars in China, adding: 'Animals infected with viruses or otherwise sickened and abused in Chinese labs reportedly may be sold to wet markets for consumption once experiments are done.'

US Congressman Matt Gaetz said: 'I'm disgusted to learn that for years the US government has been funding dangerous and cruel animal experiments at the Wuhan Institute, which may have contributed to the global spread of coronavirus, and research at other labs in China that have virtually no oversight from US authorities.'

A letter from the Chinese Embassy, responding to our report last week about the possible leak from the Wuhan Institute, is published in today's edition.

It says: 'Hasty and reckless allegations, such as naming China as the origin in an attempt to shift the blame before any scientific conclusion, is irresponsible and will definitely do harm to international co-operation at this critical time.

'China and the UK exchanged views seriously on the origin of the virus and reached consensus.

'In his telephone conversation with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab, State Councillor and Foreign Minister Wang Yi pointed out that 'alarmingly, some people are attempting to politicise the epidemic, label the virus and stigmatise China...'

'Raab expressed the UK's firm opposition to politicising the Covid-19 outbreak and fully agrees with China that the source of the virus is a scientific issue that requires professional and science-based assessment.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... caves.html

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Daily Mail. :lol: The right-wing rag. I am not surprised that Sivad gets his information from here or Youtube videos by wingnuts.

Overall, we rate Daily Mail Questionable due to numerous failed fact checks and poor sourcing of information.

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This was almost certainly deliberate. The primary aim was to put down the resistance in Wuhan and Hong Kong. But it was also designed to stop Trump. This is what massive interference by a an evil foreign power in American elections really looks like.

The third motivation for releasing the Xi virus was to undermine the West and strengthen fascist China's place in the world. When I first alerted people's attention to this fact, it was poo pooed on the basis that the crisis in its early stages made the China government look bad. The China government knew there were millions upon millions of Cultural Marxist traitors across the Western world who would use every opportunity to undermine democracy, free speech and liberty in the West while praising Red Fascist China to the heavens.

Fascist governments don't get the benefit of the doubt. Fascist governments don't get innocent until proven guilty.
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Godstud wrote:Daily Mail. :lol: The right-wing rag. I am not surprised that Sivad gets his information from here or Youtube videos by wingnuts.


extra special pofo.


The Daily Mail isn't the source, the source is the study published by researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The Daily Mail is just bringing the study to the public's attention.

Here's the paper:

"Discovery of a rich gene pool of bat SARS-related coronaviruses provides new insights into the origin of SARS coronavirus.”
https://journals.plos.org/plospathogens ... at.1006698




Here are the funding sources:

Funding: This work was jointly funded by National Natural Science Foundation of China (81290341, 31621061) to ZLS, China Mega-Project for Infectious Disease (2014ZX10004001-003) to ZLS, Scientific and technological basis special project (2013FY113500) to YZZ and ZLS from the Ministry of Science and Technology of China, the Strategic Priority Research Program of the Chinese Academy of Sciences (XDPB0301) to ZLS, the National Institutes of Health (NIAID R01AI110964), the USAID Emerging Pandemic Threats (EPT) PREDICT program to PD and ZLS, CAS Pioneer Hundred Talents Program to JC, NRF-CRP grant (NRF-CRP10-2012-05) to LFW and WIV “One-Three-Five” Strategic Program (WIV-135-TP1) to JC and ZLS.




and here are the author affiliations:

Ben Hu
Contributed equally to this work with: Ben Hu, Lei-Ping Zeng, Xing-Lou Yang

ROLES Data curation, Formal analysis, Investigation, Validation, Visualization, Writing – original draft

AFFILIATION CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

Lei-Ping Zeng
Contributed equally to this work with: Ben Hu, Lei-Ping Zeng, Xing-Lou Yang

ROLES Investigation, Methodology

AFFILIATION CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

Xing-Lou Yang
Contributed equally to this work with: Ben Hu, Lei-Ping Zeng, Xing-Lou Yang

ROLES Investigation, Resources

AFFILIATION CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

Xing-Yi Ge
ROLES Formal analysis, Resources

AFFILIATION CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

Wei Zhang
ROLES Investigation

AFFILIATION CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

Bei Li
ROLES Investigation

AFFILIATION CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

Jia-Zheng Xie
ROLES Investigation

AFFILIATION CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

Xu-Rui Shen
ROLES Investigation

AFFILIATION CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

Yun-Zhi Zhang
ROLES Resources

AFFILIATIONS Yunnan Institute of Endemic Diseases Control and Prevention, Dali, China, Dali University, Dali, China

Ning Wang
ROLES Investigation

AFFILIATION CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

Dong-Sheng Luo
ROLES Investigation, Resources

AFFILIATION CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

Xiao-Shuang Zheng
ROLES Investigation

AFFILIATION CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China

Mei-Niang Wang
ROLES Resources

AFFILIATION CAS Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Center for Emerging Infectious Diseases of Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China
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You're a pofo ZERO, @Sivad. I suppose, compared to you, our intellects truly do appear towering. :D

Conspiracy theories seem to be your thing. Poking holes in your stupid theories isn't hard. Reality isn't something you work well with.
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I don’t think there is one poster on PoFo that wouldn’t prefer the origins of this virus to be a natural mutation that occurred in a wet market due to poor health and safety.

Why it’s always left to certain people to look like the craycrayz in entertaining uncomfortable scenarios is just plain unfair tbh. I wouldn’t mind switching hats with some of you more smug posters who get to sit back and call everyone with an open mind conspiracy theorists. It’s almost childish, or immature or gutless or something..
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The behavior of the Chinese Communist Party suggests some significant culpability. Organizational behavior reflects individual behavior, and influences and is influenced by the group. In social animals like humans, some of that behavior operates from the limbic system. For example, if a dog (a social animal) knows he's not supposed to be digging in your flower beds while you're gone, and you come back and see the flower bed dug up, the dog when confronted will often act in a number of ways: lowering of the head, tail between the legs, or simply looking the other way and ignoring you. Dogs aren't intellectually sophisticated, because their frontal cortex isn't well developed. Yet, they will exhibit the same telltale signs as a child confronted with wrongdoing. The lies the children tell are so obviously wrong it's sort of funny.

Considering that they've disappeared a number of scientists, directly lied to the WHO, and are now claiming that all new cases of coronavirus in China are coming from outside of China all suggest that the CCP is squarely to blame--that it is not merely some random fuck-up at a wet market.
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