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The Financial Times wrote:
Greece’s & Turkey's top diplomats had a heated exchange publicly on Thursday evening after a round of talks that had been aimed at reducing tensions over the neighbours’ territorial disputes and the divided island of Cyprus.

Greece’s foreign minister, Nikos Dendias, travelled to Turkey for the first time since warships from both nations were caught up in a dangerous confrontation in the eastern Mediterranean Sea last year over drilling for hydrocarbons in contested waters, provoking threats of sanctions from the EU.

Turkey is a candidate for EU membership but its poor relationship with member states Greece and Cyprus and an erosion in human rights at home have stalled its bid.

In a televised joint statement, Dendias said Athens supported Turkey’s EU entry because it was in Greece’s interests to have its neighbour as an ally in the bloc — but Turkey first had to “de-escalate and avoid statements that could dynamite our relations”.

Territorial “breaches have increased recently and such infringements are an obstacle to creating an environment of trust”, he said.
“If Turkey continues violating our sovereign rights, then sanctions, measures that are on the table, will be put back on the agenda.”

His assertions visibly angered Ankara’s foreign minister Mevlut Cavusoglu, who accused Dendias of going off-script from a “positive” message they had agreed upon during the closed-door talks and making “extremely unacceptable accusations” to appeal to Greek public opinion once he was in front of the cameras.

The Greek foreign minister had an explicit order: if provoked, to respond accordingly.

Cavusoglu during his opening statement had earlier accused Greece of allegedly mistreating its Muslim minority.

“We do not agree on these issues, and despite the consensus we reached on these issues during our meeting, if you come out here and blame Turkey, I will respond,” Cavusoglu said. Turkey was not violating Greek sovereignty but merely defending its own rights in the eastern Mediterranean and those of Turkish Cypriots, he said.

Dendias countered: “I would be surprised if you were expecting me to be here in Ankara and not express these concerns, as if nothing had happened in the Aegean or eastern Mediterranean.”

Turkey has said it wants to “turn a new page” with the EU but its recent diplomatic approaches have been overshadowed by embarrassing gaffes.

Last week, Ursula von der Leyen, president of the European Commission, was not given a chair next to President Recep Tayyip Erdogan during her visit to Ankara. Charles Michel, the European Council president, took the seat next to Erdogan, and the protocol breach led to charges of sexism against the two men.

Nato allies Greece and Turkey are at odds over maritime borders in the Aegean and Mediterranean and over Cyprus, which has been split along ethnic lines since Turkey invaded in 1974.

Cavusoglu and Dendias are due to meet again later this month when UN-brokered talks on Cyprus convene in Geneva.

Cavusoglu rejected Dendias’ suggestion that Ankara had exploited the millions of Syrian refugees in Turkey as leverage against Greece and the EU. “In four years, you have forced back 80,000 people and threw those who would not return into the sea,” he said to Dendias.

Dendias, who also met Erdogan, called on Turkey to uphold religious freedom for its dwindling population of 3,000 or so ethnic Greeks. He said Athens expected Turkey to turn two ancient Greek Orthodox landmarks back into museums. Erdogan last year converted the sixth-century Hagia Sophia and the 1,000-year-old Chora Church into mosques, defying objections from Greece, the US and Unesco.

Dendias had been in “full consultation” with Kyriakos Mitsotakis, the Greek prime minister, an official in Mitsotakis’ office said on condition of anonymity. “The foreign minister had an explicit order: if provoked, to respond accordingly,” he said.


The video is all the money, the Turkish FM lost his senses and started shouting, apparently he was under the impression that he could choreograph accusations against Greece, changing the subject to how well the Muslim minority of Greece is being treated instead of the actual topic which is the maritime boundary and the reason for the visit. Literally screaming that the Greek FM talking about the maritime boundaries, the UN Law of the Sea and the EU sanctions is "going off script to appeal to the Greek public", while his lamentations for the Muslim minority of Greece were apparently "not going off-script" and certainly not an "appeal to the Turkish public". :roll:

These guys permanently reside in a cloud of manufactured fake news where they diet-feed their public with platitudes and bullshit.

A couple of years ago, Erdogan came to Greece to visit Tsipras and stunned everyone when he openly started saying that the Lausanne Treaty(aka Peace Treaty between Greece and Turkey) "needs to be revised".
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That big star in middle means the sun which represent infinity. Other 16 little stars around the sun represents Turkish countries in history. Each one represents a country from Huns to Seljuks, Ottomans to Turkey.

There is a saying in Turkish: "When two Jewish come together, they start a business; when two Turks come together, they start a country". :D
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euronews wrote:
Turkey doesn't accept international law over eastern Mediterranean, Greece's FM tells Euronews

Greece's foreign minister Nikos Dendias on Euronews

Turkey doesn't accept international rules when it comes to exploratory drilling for gas in the eastern Mediterranean, Greece's foreign minister has told Euronews.

Relations between Athens and Ankara came to a boil last summer after the drilling in waters claimed by Greece and Cyprus.

While a direct confrontation was averted, tensions have remained high ever since, with the EU threatening to slap sanctions on Turkey.

"We would like to move our relations forward," Nikos Dendias told Euronews. "But we have a problem: in order to solve an exercise [problem], we have to abide by the same rules.

"And the rules in the international community [are] crystal clear. If we move with the same rules, we will solve this exercise [problem].

"But what's happening with Turkey is that Turkey does not accept those rules."

"Turkey should accept and abide by international law and accept and abide by the Convention on [the] Law of the Sea.

"On issues of international law, there cannot be many opinions. Something is legal or illegal. Something abides with international law [or] does not abide with international."

Heated press conference and then a 'very nice dinner'
Dendias was speaking a week after his meeting in Ankara with his Turkish counterpart, Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu.

The press conference that followed the encounter descended into a heated exchange of accusations.

The public clash made international headiness and laid bare the deep-seated differences between the two countries.

Dendias said Turkey had violated international law in the Aegean and the Mediterranean seas, as well as the sovereign rights of Greece.

Çavuşoğlu called the accusations "extremely unacceptable".

"Turkey is obliged to protect its own rights," Çavuşoğlu fired back.

Dendias, speaking on Thursday, said the meeting did not reflect a new deterioration in relations, although he admitted the combative tone was "not something that I wanted to happen".

"This open exchange with my friend Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu was an exchange that set the record straight," he said, adding that both of them had a "very nice dinner" afterwards.

"Trying to make our relations better does not mean that Greece should not repeat what constitutes long time positions on issues of international law and international law of the sea. And also, if you allow me to say, I'm not speaking about contentious issues, it's just black and white.

"Greece is trying to find common ground with Turkey. But that common ground has to have a solid basis and that solid basis in international law and international law of the sea.

"That will be extremely helpful for both societies because what Greece is looking forward to is an amicable future with Turkey, the Turks, the Turkish society. We're close neighbourhoods. We can do a lot together, but this needs a very solid basis."

'Denial is one thing, the truth is another'
Asked about the recent proposal of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan to hold an international summit on the eastern Mediterranean situation, the Greece minister remained open to dialogue as long as alleged Turkish incursions cease.

"Denial is one thing. The truth is another. What they spoke about is something that cannot be considered contested: 400 flights over Greek territory. There's not any clause in any international convention or international law that allows fighter planes from one state to fly over the territory of another state," he said.

"Having said that, we have no problem with discussing with Turkey. We would like to move our relations forward."

Another point of contention that continues to strain relations between Athens and Ankara is migration. Both sides have accused each other of pushing back migrants. Dendias refutes the Turkish claims.

"I have to say that after March and February 2020, in which tens of thousands of migrants were pushed towards the Greek border by Turkey in order to apply pressure to the European Union, Turkey is in no position to dictate on us or gives us a lesson on human rights protections. And I will not go any further to that," he said.

"I think everybody remembers the pictures of 2020."

Speaking more broadly about migration, Dendias said the issue requires "the recognition by everybody that migration is a pan-European problem and it needs pan-European answers".

He also called for more cooperation with non-EU neighbouring countries, like Egypt, a country he believes is willing "to solve the problem without asking for money from the European Union and without trying to apply pressure or even blackmail the European Union."
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Well too bad for Turkey because the rest of the world accepts it. So Turkey will have to comply or face sanctions eventually. It just depends on how severely they want to break them.

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