Crantag wrote:And lest anyone want to talk shit to me, I am already 8/9ths of the way or so to attaining my Austrian citizenship. I basically just need to send in a couple more pieces of paper.
It is already a done deal.
It might take me a day, a month, or 5 years.
Who gives a shit.
America is a shithole country.
And, I am possibly going to Austria.
I might be in Austria in 5 months time.
Not a pipe dream, I've been around the world, and I am Austrian, I needed to beat my legal case before I could finalize attaining my citizenship in Austria.
Fuck America. America is a shithole, and full of shit.
Anyone wanna tell me "if you don't like America, get out", guess what, I'm fucking working on it.
@Politics_Observer, I don't blame you for liking your country, especially with all the shit it's put you through, but I do not share your pride at all, and I may be on my way to the exit. I may eventually renounce my American citizenship, if it all works out.
Or, maybe not. I might just stay in Oregon, and be a farm worker.
Time will tell.
I beg to differ. We can get carried away in discussions and lose grasp with reality. America IS a great country. America is easily the Roman Imperium of its time. It straddles and dominates the present civilisation. I recall some poster in Ireland commenting on up coming elections there that he was much more likely to be affected by decisions taken in DC than in Dublin. And there is more than a little truth to that. So I am not sure how one moves around the peripheries of pax americana and is under the illusion one has left America. Western Europe, Australia, much of South America etc is part of pax America. The formal American borders may be at California and Florida, but it's influence extend far beyond that. I will sat you may have to take up residence with the Taliban, the Kims, to truly brag that you have left America.
Empires come and go. Maybe tomorrow it is Russia, China, or India that replaces the US as the world's Imperium. I would be glad that it was my good fortune to live under the American Imperium than any of the others. Maybe centuries down the road the Russian, the Chinese, the Indian may be shining example, who knows, but I am talking of how they are today.
America a shithole? Churchill comes to mind. America is the worst country in the world except for all the others.
Australia a perfect country? Except the aborigines are all dead. Or at the feet of pale faces. Why let such nasty pieces of history disturb one's perceptions? Just stick up that aquiline nose in the air, close one's eyes, sniff of the dry Tasmanian air and sigh: O Australia, what a shithole!