This is both a success and failure for the US.
Allowed the creation of an intelligence network and military infrastructure in the region to finally get Bin Laden. With the tech advances in the last 20 years, this sort of adventure isn't needed as much to track down a single terrorist. DRones, AI, etc. can help do all of that remotely now. It was also a success financially, as many people made lots of money. I had a neighbor that would travel there often to make deals and contracts.
The pretense of going in there to build a nation, and to have it as a beacon of freedom in the region that could help stop Islamic extremism. Total failure there. HOWEVER, many would argue that the US never cared to do this. This was merely the pretext to sell to the public. The US probably should have just pulled out immediately after Bin Laden was killed and let it all fall apart then... then again, there was still more money to be made. In some way, you could say, this is not a failure, other than the failure to meet up to the pretense that was setup. When does that ever actually happen though?
The reality here for the public (not government) is that we have accept brutal regimes whether we like it or not. We have to accept that eliminating human rights abuses, child sex trafficking, etc. etc. is basically an impossible task. When we realize this, it will become harder for governments to sell us lies in order to get into another profit making racket.... that said, we won't learn that lesson.
colliric wrote:Trump had a May deadline and a proper plan to get out in the agreement with the Taliban. Biden reneged on the May exit date.
No plan on earth would work without boots on the ground to actually enforce it. This was a house of cards, no way to hold it up.
You're full of it.
"If Trump/Republicans were there, it would be different."
It went this long because it was a political hot potato. NO one wanted to rip off the scab that had to be ripped and deal with the political consequences. IN a sense, it's good that its biden since he's at the twilight of his career anyway. If it were a younger president, they probably wouldn't be willing to do this. Same would be with TRump given he's old too. It's funny, the solution to pulling out was to elect a really old president (Trump or Biden, doesn't matter).