- 09 Dec 2021 14:11
#15201624
All I said is that the invasion of Ukraine at this moment in time is Biden's rhetoric and not Putin's. We have Igor seem confused on this given he said the opposite was Western Propaganda.
But I have to ask, we had troops at the border last year and then they pissed off home after a training exercise. So what is happening? Preparation. Well no. Russia sent troops to the border for two reasons. One because it is their sovereign territory and they use it to showcase their rights and military capacity. And two, to piss off America and make them make absurd claims that Russia are about to invade Ukraine. Eventually the troops might reduce again, but you can be certain they won't be used as the aggressor in invasion as that would be a huge own goal for Russia.
As for what might come into the future, well I would say Russia are just like any other nation and are opportunists. If they could take back and recreate the SU they would, but in realistically that won't happen unless the US are preoccupied else where.
tomskunk wrote:@B0ycey
The position of Biden is that Russia is massing troops to have a realistic, credible option to invade Ukraine. Its position is not that they know for sure if Russia indeed will invade Ukraine. So, it's important to clarify that. I think Putin will invade Ukraine IF he thinks the costs to him won't be too high. Some of those costs would include the political price he would pay at home when Russian troops come home in coffins during the invasion, which will happen. Of course, he might try to hide those casualties from the Russian public too, but the Russian public isn't dumb and will figure out that Putin is trying to hide those casualties from them.
All I said is that the invasion of Ukraine at this moment in time is Biden's rhetoric and not Putin's. We have Igor seem confused on this given he said the opposite was Western Propaganda.
But I have to ask, we had troops at the border last year and then they pissed off home after a training exercise. So what is happening? Preparation. Well no. Russia sent troops to the border for two reasons. One because it is their sovereign territory and they use it to showcase their rights and military capacity. And two, to piss off America and make them make absurd claims that Russia are about to invade Ukraine. Eventually the troops might reduce again, but you can be certain they won't be used as the aggressor in invasion as that would be a huge own goal for Russia.
As for what might come into the future, well I would say Russia are just like any other nation and are opportunists. If they could take back and recreate the SU they would, but in realistically that won't happen unless the US are preoccupied else where.