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Rancid wrote:I think China values Russia being a thorn on the side of EU/US. Thus, I think it will be longer before China backstabs Russia.
Of course, I'm sure Russia expects it.
Fasces wrote:China has settled its land disputes with most of its neighbors, including Russia.
Beren wrote:CCP ambitions don't know borders anyway.
Beren wrote:No wonder, though, if the Chinese feel surrounded a bit.
Fasces wrote:Yes, China agrees with this statement of historical facts. ...
Beren wrote:It's from the video in the OP, saying they're the countries China has territorial disputes with.
They are "only" a bit too obsessed in the pre-1840 borders on land, and the unofficial ROC claim in 1947 for the South China Sea.
To me, the problem is more about them not deserving what they currently have, than about them making fantasy claims.
Taiwan or even Tibet could have been a universally accepted part of China if it is not a shithole as now.
Beren wrote:the video map
litwin wrote:Ivan lover /Ivan you are lying again ,
litwin wrote:"On Chinese social networks the hashtag “Give us back Siberia”
litwin wrote:official history books in China state that "Siberia is a temporarily lost territory
litwin wrote:he Chinese portal "Jinji Toutiao" published an article, the author of which calls Siberia "Chinese land"
Fasces wrote:That's a weird/deliberately misleading map. The only border disputes China has now is with Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei for the SCS stuff, a tiny one with India, the one with Bhutan only Indians care about, and the Senkakus with Japan.
China has/had no disputes with Cambodia or Singapore. A very, very minor one with Indonesia that neither cares too much about as part of the SCS mess.
They're including resolved disputes.
Mongolia was recognized as independent in 1949, and the border is settled.
They signed a treaty with Kazakhstan in 1994. Not a dispute anymore.
The border with Laos was surveyed and agreed to in 1992. Not a dispute.
The Russian border was solved in 1994, the last little island they bickered about was in 2004.
The Burmese border got settled in 1960. No problem there.
The Indians claim Nepal has a border dispute with China. China and Nepal claim they have no border disputes, and that they were all solved in the 60s. So was China's dispute with North Korea.
I didn't know about Tajikistan but wikipedia says "In 2011, as part of a boundary agreement, China officially relinquished its claim on 96% of the total disputed territory, while Tajikistan ceded around 4% - about 1,137 square km (439 square miles) - to China." - so that's done.
Pakistan got solved in the 50's, but the map doesn't include Pakistan so they're being selective for sure.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territori ... a_2020.png
litwin wrote:"Beijing 'eating up' Siberia
by Vladimir Rozanskij
A documentary about the colonization of the Russian Far East by Chinese migrants. They do big business in a sparsely populated area with an unregulated market."
https://www.asianews.it/news-en/Beijing ... 53500.html
Vladimir Rozanskij wrote:
“In China I was a low-level employee, Russia opened up new perspectives for me, a large market without many rules. Amid ups and downs I managed to make a lot of money”. After opening a number of restaurants, Wang was forced to close one due to the pandemic, but he plans to make up for it soon.
Beren wrote:Being a typical hardworking, saving, thinking-in-the-long-term Chinese entrepreneur simply seems to pay off greatly in Siberia.
late wrote:Here's my 2 cents.
Russia and China are natural enemies. .
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