[annatar1914]

I think @BlutoSays likes to quote Ronald Reagan, a person he presumably admires. Indeed he has a quote from RR in his sig. Let me quote Ronald Reagan in a letter to congress:



So I am sure Bluto will join his hero in surrendering any assault type weapons.

It is interesting though. As a trained soldier the idea of leading my unit against a bunch of old fuckers with Walmart AR-15's is not frightening. Blow through them long before they even reach out and touch us. My (let us call it an infantry platoon) will have weapons that will destroy them long before they could even use their 'plastic fantastic' short range weapons. I would be far more concerned if they were armed with the odd 30.06 and scope.

Traitors are idiots. They seem to place their confidence in the notion that US soldiers will not obey their orders. That is a fatal error on their part.

@Drlee :

I've probably said this before, but I think it is bearing repetition since so many of American gun fetishists claim to be religious Christians: in a fallen world in which sin exists and the natural man without help from God finds all kinds of ways to destroy their lives through that sinful nature, how can one of these gun fanatics honestly trust that same sinful nature to not sin with a weapon, an instrument of death and destruction? At the very least, why are they so hesitant to accept the discipline and command structure of a Militia, as part of the responsibility that comes with the American " right to bear arms "?

I think we already might know the answers to these questions.

[Drlee]

@annatar1914

I think we already might know the answers to these questions.

Indeed we do.

I might add that brave men with guns are far less common that cowards with guns.

At the shooting this week, we saw how few brave men with guns there were.

I might also add that a true Christian hero would have run into the building to save the children even if he didn't have a gun.

[Negotiator]

I have tried my best finding any connection of the killer to drugs, porn, or online bullying.

The guy was apparently of low empathy, had few if any friends, was known to have tortured animals (cats), did online threads, and might have tried to impress a girl online, who however lived in another state and hardly knew him and thus was naturally shocked by his actions afterwards.

So there was a connection of sorts to online bullying - but the killer wasnt the one bullied, he bullied others.

He however was known to be bullied at school for a lisp.

So I maintain claiming that this event has any connection to drugs, porn, and/or online bullying is a complete non sequitor.

I might also add that a true Christian hero would have run into the building to save the children even if he didn't have a gun.

Trying to fight a gunman without having a gun yourself requires another big advantage, as being able to attack him from the behind and having a massive advantage in regards to getting control over the weapon.

Otherwise its just a Darvin award level of stupidity.

[Drlee]

The three main elements of exceptional heroism are:

Rage.

Fear for oneself or others.

Incredible good luck.

It is not "stupid" to try to save the lives of others. In our religion we have this command:

"Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends".

As you have, no doubt, never been a soldier @Negotiator you may not understand what I am about to say. One could make a case for saying that it is "stupid" to become a soldier. It is the voluntary act of putting oneself in harms way. Once one is a soldier though, it is not stupid to face dangerous and even deadly situations, often against difficult odds, to save the lives of your fellow soldiers. It is the very meaning of life for a good soldier. And it ought to be for a cop.

If the cops had charged in and lost three cops saving three kids I would say that is a good trade. Sucks to be one of the cops.

I am thinking about all of the "thin blue line" flags I see. I am thinking about all of the (fashionable) reverence for "first responders". They deserve this when they put their lives on the line for others. That is not what we saw in this case. It appears we saw a bunch of bureaucrats waiting until they had 9 tanks, 15 drones, 7 helicopters and a wheelbarrow until they ventured to put their asses at risk. In fact, it seems that the big bad Texas cops were all in a dither until some federal officers said, "fuck this" and ran in to save the kids.

I doubt that by the time everyone involved figures out their own particular cover that we will never really get a good assessment of what happened. I am certain that what we already know...that heavily armed police officers stood around for the better part of an hour while a kid in the school executed children. And that is not cool. It is the very definition of cowardly. Bureaucratic training bullshit. Prepare to standby idiocy.

[Scamp]

Well one thing for sure...Anyone trapped in a gun free zone, like a school, when a murderous criminal starts shooting up the place, is going to be praying that a good person with a gun comes and stops the shooter. Even if its a liberal anti-gun person.

[late]

Well one thing for sure...Anyone trapped in a gun free zone, like a school, when a murderous criminal starts shooting up the place, is going to be praying that a good person with a gun comes and stops the shooter. Even if its a liberal anti-gun person.

All the Kings horses, and all the Kings men, can't bring the children back to life again.

Ounce of prevention..

[Pants-of-dog]

Well one thing for sure...Anyone trapped in a gun free zone, like a school, when a murderous criminal starts shooting up the place, is going to be praying that a good person with a gun comes and stops the shooter. Even if its a liberal anti-gun person.

They had an SRO.

He was not even on the campus at the time. When he got there, he drove right by the shooter and accosted one of the teachers, because he did not know the teacher and assumed he was the shooter.

Then I guess he waited outside with the rest of the “good guys with the guns” while unarmed teachers and parents saved kids.

[BlutoSays]

LEARN TO SPOT THE LEFTIST LIES.

[Drlee]

Meanwhile two more mass shootings this weekend.

And the Republican answer? Rush to pass more laws allowing mental patients to carry concealed weapons.

[Pants-of-dog]

LEARN TO SPOT THE LEFTIST LIES.

Is this the discredited Lott and Moody work?

[pugsville]

LEARN TO SPOT THE LEFTIST LIES.

Mindless dribble without substance. Oh look there is difference in how the stats are kept tin difference countries,t that means we can just ignore the solid FACT the these things happen SO MUCH MORE in teh USA than other comparable countries,

Republicans denying factual evidence *IS* a way of life,

Jesus how dumb are you people to swallow this absolute BS.

You lot have been lied to so much and shorn as sheeple so repeatedly you simply cannot tell which day of the week it is. YOu fallen down the rabbit hole of self delusion.

Mass shootings are MUCH MUCH MORE common in the USA than other comparable western countries. Thats a FACT.

People in Britain, Canada and Australia are just generally shocked that the USA just accepts this.

[Negotiator]

Well one thing for sure...Anyone trapped in a gun free zone, like a school, when a murderous criminal starts shooting up the place, is going to be praying that a good person with a gun comes and stops the shooter. Even if its a liberal anti-gun person.

I'm not aware of anyone who doesnt want policemen to have guns.

The complaint here is that they havent been using them.

Why do they have the right to carry guns if they arent using them when its actually necessary ?



And besides the argument of most people is that private people who want to own a gun simply should have to have a license. Like you have to have in almost all countries.

A license that proves they're been tested negative for problems that show its a bad idea to allow them having a gun in the first place.

And to show that they know how to properly handle a gun, to minimize the risk of accidents, making sure the gun is stored saftely, etc.

[Godstud]

Yep @Negotiator. Licensing, registration, and insurance. They do more for car safety than gun safety.

[QatzelOk]

I'm not aware of anyone who doesnt want policemen to have guns.

The complaint here is that they havent been using them.

Not just the police. Most guns are idle for 99% of the time. They just sit there parked, taking up space. This is an incredible waste of both urban space and of precious metals.

The ideal gun-ownership society would have a public "gun share" program, with thousands of loaded guns in every public place, waiting to be rented.

When you need to shoot someone, you just insert your membership card into a slot, and then grab the gun and start shooting.

Once you have finished shooting all the people you wanted to shoot, you put the gun back into its stand, where it's ready bo be used by the next school shooter, mall shooter, marathon shooter, or whatever.

Less waste, more efficiency.

Gun Share: Coming to the USA
...because an idle gun is a wasted gun

[Tainari88]

Well, if the powers that be can't pass basic laws to protect people even after Matthew McConaughey made this speech humanizing those kids and victims? Nothing is going to move those stone-cold hearts co-opted by the Gun Lobby blood money:

[BlutoSays]

Why THANK YOU for bringing McConaughey to my attention!!

[Godstud]

Movies are not real life @BlutoSays. It's sad that I have to tell you that.

[XogGyux]

Movies are not real life @BlutoSays. It's sad that I have to tell you that.

Except for porno, that is real.

[Drlee]

Except for porno, that is real.

And the number one cause of carpal tunnel syndrome.

[Rancid]

@BlutoSays is the right wing version of Skinster.