[litwin]

WILL MOSCOW GENERALS JUST WATCH WHEN POOTLER KILLS THEIR EMPIRE ?



decline in Russia's economic and political clout as a direct result of its disastrous invasion of Ukraine and Putin's eventual downfall, the Financial Times reported on Tuesday, citing anonymous Chinese officials and regional experts. 



Though Vladimir Putin and Chinese leader Xi Jinping pledged to strengthen bilateral ties during a video conference in late December, sources told the FT that mistrust towards the Russian leader is growing among the upper echelons of the Chinese Communist Party.



“The invasion decision was made by a very small group of people. China shouldn’t simply follow Russia,” the FT quoted one anonymous Chinese official as saying. “Putin is crazy.”



China, according to the outlet’s sources and contrary to the widely accepted version of events, was not aware of the Kremlin’s plan to launch a full-scale military invasion of Ukraine last year and expected a limited military operation at most. 


https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2023/01/ ... -ft-a79911

[Patrickov]

It's their fault to support Russia. They get what they sow.

[Unthinking Majority]

Democratically elected leaders like Putin who turn themselves into authoritarian dictators by using the Emperor Palpatine method can always be trusted as reliable and peaceful allies who act in good faith.

Are they even allowed to watch Star Wars episode 1-6 in Russia and China? Might stir dissent against the state. EEeeeeeee!

[Rancid]

Shithole regimes tend to not have many friends.

[Patrickov]

Are they even allowed to watch Star Wars episode 1-6 in Russia and China? Might stir dissent against the state. EEeeeeeee!

Baidu has a sophisticated entry of the Star Wars franchise so it seems ok for China at least.

And to be fair, Chinese dictatorship operates very differently. At the very least, they don't pretend their leaders to be democratically elected.

[Unthinking Majority]

Baidu has a sophisticated entry of the Star Wars franchise so it seems ok for China at least.

And to be fair, Chinese dictatorship operates very differently. At the very least, they don't pretend their leaders to be democratically elected.

I can remember when Star Wars Revenge of the Sith came out and Chinese officials are mad because it was a pro-democracy, anti-dictatorship story. The six movies have a strong theme of anti-dictatorship. To China i'm sure its seen as propaganda.

[Beren]

Anonymous Chinese officials told the outlet they believed the Kremlin’s goals in Ukraine were doomed to failure and that Russia would emerge from the conflict as a “minor power.”

However, Beijing still has much to gain from its relationship with the Kremlin in the short term, seeing its closeness to Putin as a useful bargaining chip in its relationship with Europe, the FT sources said.

China is also hoping to profit from the post-war reconstruction boom in Ukraine, officials said.

If Russia emerges from the conflict as a minor power, they may also hope to get their fair share of Russia as well. I don't mean a literal or formal partition of Russia, I'd rather mean some spheres of influence instead.



(The third map is not exactly the same as the previous two, but anyway.)

I wonder if how seriously Putin took the unlimited friendship or partnership with China, but historically speaking hardly anything else could make China feel safer than the fall of Russia and having their fair share of it. Almost the same thing as the fall of the Japanese Empire was to them, although it was a more existential threat to China.

[litwin]

It's their fault to support Russia. They get what they sow.

does han-china support Moscow ?

[Patrickov]

does han-china support Moscow ?

They are forced to.

Their goal is to make themselves great again, which makes the West their principal enemy for now.

Of course that doesn't make Russia a friend, but dictatorships have few choices.

[litwin]

They are forced to.

Their goal is to make themselves great again, which makes the West their principal enemy for now.

Of course that doesn't make Russia a friend, but dictatorships have few choices.

1) does "china" provide Moscow with material , weapons ?
2) check out statistic, how much the hans paid to Moscow for oil- gas in 2022

[Patrickov]

1) does "china" provide Moscow with material , weapons ?
2) check out statistic, how much the hans paid to Moscow for oil- gas in 2022

China continue to cooperate with Russia and speak on behalf of them. That's enough to deduce them guilty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ru ... story.html

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/article ... tween-them

[litwin]

China continue to cooperate with Russia and speak on behalf of them. That's enough to deduce them guilty.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/ru ... story.html

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/article ... tween-them

HANS HAVE COMMITTED more than enough for The Hague 4 -5 times. But , the primitive Muscovites have never had a chance to drag them or Persians in the war which Moscow has lost already

[litwin]

If Russia emerges from the conflict as a minor power, they may also hope to get their fair share of Russia as well. I don't mean a literal or formal partition of Russia, I'd rather mean some spheres of influence instead.



(The third map is not exactly the same as the previous two, but anyway.)

I wonder if how seriously Putin took the unlimited friendship or partnership with China, but historically speaking hardly anything else could make China feel safer than the fall of Russia and having their fair share of it. Almost the same thing as the fall of the Japanese Empire was to them, although it was a more existential threat to China.

[XogGyux]

Shithole regimes tend to not have many friends.

WTH, they said it was a friendship without limits!

[litwin]

WTH, they said it was a friendship without limits!

[Rich]

The question to be asked in respect of China is why they have refused to go along with the West and seek Russia's destruction. If Russia were to break up China would be very well placed for the Scramble to grab the low population density primary resource rich areas of Russia.

I'm no fan of the Chinese National Socialist Regime, but I think the first reason is that they're just not as demented as so many western liberals. They may be deeply sceptical of the chances of success of this venture, in the same way that some of us were deeply sceptical of the Liberals plan to build new Switzerland in the Hindu Kush.

[Patrickov]

The question to be asked in respect of China is why they have refused to go along with the West and seek Russia's destruction. If Russia were to break up China would be very well placed for the Scramble to grab the low population density primary resource rich areas of Russia.

On the other hand, China is the next big bad if not already the biggest. If even you recognize them as bad as Nazis there's no reason why those in power don't think so. Russia falling will definitely mean China is next.

[litwin]

The question to be asked in respect of China is why they have refused to go along with the West and seek Russia's destruction.If Russia were to break up China would be very well placed for the Scramble to grab the low population density primary resource rich areas of Russia.

I'm no fan of the Chinese National Socialist Regime, but I think the first reason is that they're just not as demented as so many western liberals. They may be deeply sceptical of the chances of success of this venture, in the same way that some of us were deeply sceptical of the Liberals plan to build new Switzerland in the Hindu Kush.

"China is why they have refused to go along with the West and seek Russia's destruction." they do. by the hans want to get Manchuria "back" peacefully, using economic and DEMOGRAPHIC PRESSURE.

situation with demography in outer Manchuria catastrophic, Moscovites try to fix it , but failed miserably. the Last battles in vuhledar and bahmut killed 1000s young men from outer Manchuria and Siberia, many left in order to avoid draft.


the best interview about this war, man who speaks - S. Markov , imperialist - fascist, a close adviser to czar pootin
use, English captions

and

[litwin]

The question to be asked in respect of China is why they have refused to go along with the West and seek Russia's destruction. If Russia were to break up China would be very well placed for the Scramble to grab the low population density primary resource rich areas of Russia.

I'm no fan of the Chinese National Socialist Regime, but I think the first reason is that they're just not as demented as so many western liberals. They may be deeply sceptical of the chances of success of this venture, in the same way that some of us were deeply sceptical of the Liberals plan to build new Switzerland in the Hindu Kush.

proofs , pootler kills the last Moscow colonialists in Asia (outer Manchuria)

[litwin]