By Deutschmania - 04 Feb 2023 20:50
- 04 Feb 2023 20:50 #15263890
A presumed PRC spy balloon was just shot down over North Carolina. This reminds me of the lyrics of a song from the 80's . It's funny how life can imitate art.
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CNN wrote:“This was a PRC (People's Republic of China) surveillance balloon. This surveillance balloon purposely traversed the United States and Canada and we are confident it was seeking to monitor sensitive military sites,” the official said.
“Its route over the United States near many potentially sensitive sites contradicts the PRC government explanation that it is a weather balloon.”
The official said a second balloon, spotted over Central and South America, was “another PRC surveillance balloon” and bore similar technical characteristics to the one that flew over the US.
“Both balloons also carry surveillance equipment not usually associated with standard meteorological activities or civilian research,” the official said. “Collection pod equipment and solar panels located on the metal truss suspended below the balloon are a prominent feature of both balloons.”
The official said China is able to “actively maneuver the balloons to overfly specific locations,” pointing to the balloons’ flight patterns and the small motors and propellers seen in videos as evidence.
CNN wrote:The “PRC (People's Republic of China) government surveillance balloons transited the continental United States briefly at least three times during the prior administration and once that we know of at the beginning of this administration, but never for this duration of time,” the defense official said.
Beren wrote:The Chinese may want to see the fall of Russia even more than the West does, so they could get rid of a formidable historic rival while putting their hands on its Siberian resources, they just have to carry on with it carefully. They don't think in terms of alliances anyway.
Patrickov wrote:Ideologically the free and open West is the bigger enemy of the closed and totalitarian East, of which both China and Russia are members.
Rich wrote:There should be military retaliation against China. it doesn't have to be big but it must be enough to completly humiliate Xi and China on the world stage.
Rich wrote:1 Biden should be impeached, any doubts that China Joe is not a traitor have been removed.
Two things should happen.
1 Biden should be impeached, any doubts that China Joe is not a traitor have been removed.
2 There should be military retaliation against China. it doesn't have to be big but it must be enough to completly humiliate Xi and China on the world stage.
Yahoo wrote:Satellite Images Reveal Chinese Balloon Bases
China’s spy balloon took off from a base on Hainan Island along the country’s southern coast, American intelligence reportedly believes. New satellite imagery obtained by researchers shows that the island is home to a balloon launch facility.
Researchers at the Middlebury Institute of International Studies identified the facility in satellite imagery captured by space imaging firm Planet Labs. It’s unclear if the facility identified in the imagery is related to the spy balloon which crossed the U.S. earlier this month. But the discovery follows reporting from The Washington Post late Tuesday that U.S. intelligence officials now think the People’s Liberation Army launched the infamous spy balloon from Hainan with the intent of spying on U.S. military bases in the Pacific.
Lair, who identified the facility along with colleagues Michael Duitsman and Tricia White, says his team also found imagery of the location hosting airships in Google Earth.
“The entire facility is surrounded by a perimeter security fence and also includes three large radomes,” used to house radar antennas, says Lair. The 140 meter launch pad also has what appears to be launch equipment visible in the satellite imagery, which was captured in mid-January.
[...] (Some neat pictures there also)
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/sat ... 29505.html
Deutschmania wrote:I am glad that at least no one was harmed in the downing of the balloon , unlike with the U2 spy plane that the United States had sent over the U.S.S.R. , in the '60's . The parallel between the two incidents I have found to be strikingly noteworthy. The United States , in its display of outrage , is demonstrating its own hypocrisy, as it has up to now violated the airspace of numerous other countries, including most notably the People's Republic of China, from day one, and in addition conducts aerial surveillance on its own citizens. Those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. And before attempting to remove the speck from the eye of other nations should first remove the plank from its own eye. P.S. Clueless Pres. Trump hadn't even realized that during his own administration, the Chinese had balloons winding up traveling over U.S. airspace on three separate occasions. They had apparently been written off as being UFOs.https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/02/pentagon-balloons-surveillance-midwest , https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-china-surveillance-balloon-united-states-20230213-n52l66qc2ffspb3cv6dvfkjske-story.html , https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64547394 , https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/13/spy-balloon-cold-war-china-us/ , https://jacobin.com/2023/02/united-states-china-tensions-balloon-american-interventionism-drones-missiles
ABC wrote:US tracked Chinese balloon from launch, may have accidentally drifted: Official
U.S. intelligence agencies tracked the Chinese spy balloon from its launch in China and watched as it may have been inadvertently blown into U.S. airspace, a U.S. official has confirmed to ABC News.
This latest revelation differs significantly from the previous narrative related by the White House and U.S. military officials over recent days, which has changed repeatedly since the balloon's existence became public when it was spotted over Montana on Feb. 1.
On Wednesday, the State Department referred questions on the balloon's intended path and when it was first tracked to the Pentagon, which referred questions to the National Security Council (NSC) at the White House.
But State Department spokesperson Ned Price said that whether the aircraft was blown off course had no impact on the U.S. assessment that the incursion was a violation of U.S. sovereignty.
"In some ways it doesn't matter, and I'm not going to opine on what the PRC (People's Republic of China) may or may not have intended, but in key ways it doesn't matter. It's completely immaterial. It's immaterial because this was a high-altitude surveillance balloon that did violate our airspace. It did violate international law," he said.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-watc ... d=97220283
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