Godstud wrote:Teacher and child confidentiality does NOT apply to the legal guardians of said child. Sorry.
Not according to the news articles about this story.
Teachers have to share everything important with the parents, who are using teachers only as a proxy guardian while they are in their care. This does not mean that the teachers can hide things from the parents. You're pushing a fascist idea where the state can supercede the parental rights of parents, when they want to. That's dangerous.
These teachers are being sued because they over-reached their authority. If a children tells a teacher something important, the teachers are obligated to inform parents. These "confidentiality" rules do NOT apply to the legal guardians of the child, but to others, who may be seeking information. You are very poorly informed, or have misunderstood and mischaracterized what teacher/student confidentiality means.
So, Desantis is allowed to strip kids of their confidentiality rights because you think teachers and social workers are child abusers.
Unthinking Majority wrote:They also commit suicide because they're confused and depressed about their identity issues The government keeping parents out of the loop of what's going on with their children is not ethical and should not be legal.
You did not answer the question.
The fact that Desantis is stopping these kids from getting the help they need for their confusion and depression, so how is Desantis helping the situation?
Cite the specific laws in the US and Florida.
No, it is mentioned in the articles already cited.
Desantis will probably change the law as you want though.
After all, these kids are not fully human according to all of those who are supporting Desantis on this.
A child confiding in a teacher or social worker at school is totally different than purchasing breast bindings for them or allowing them to change their gender/pronouns at school without the parents' knowledge. Government employees shouldn't be allowed to subvert parents.
Again, since none of this is permanent or risks damage, why are you supporting Desantis intruding into the private lives of these kids and their families in order to remove things like medical options, privacy at school, and the other factors that would reduce suicide and promote democracy?
Desantis is right to enact civil rights violations against trans kids because social workers respected a kid’s choices, according to you.
This is why I disagree with the notion that western democracies are somehow better at protecting rights than other countries because of voters holding politicians accountable: because centrists and liberals do not hold politicians accountable.
This thread is a good example.
You only believe they should be able to do so because this example aligns with your ideological biases. Would you support conservative teachers buying MAGA hats and copies of anti-LGBT literature for your kids if they wanted it without your knowledge or consent, hmm?
Who cares? This is an irrelevant accusation of hypocrisy.
Specify evidence this is happening.
Your own words in this thread. As well as @wat0n and @Godstud. None of you have mentioned any critics of Desantis at all.
But you also have @QatzelOk agreeing with you! That should inspire you with confidence that you have a logical and intelligent viewpoint.