[Saeko]

Have you read about the conditions of the so-called insurrectionists who were arrested/imprisoned for being at The Capitol Building that day?

Yeah, they were far too lenient with the sentencing. And what "so-called" insurrectionists? They were definitely insurrectionists.

Why don't you ask the FBI who said they couldn't admit whether they and their people were in D.C. that day, repeatedly, during legal testimony. If it weren't true, why not just say so?

You're dodging my question. I still don't understand what you think their motivation for supposedly faking a coup here is supposed to be.

I got fucked with Obamacare when living in the U.S.

So did a lot of poor Americans, including those who would otherwise not have had health insurance, since Obamacare penalised those who couldn't afford his care. Or what would've been called Romneycare before him. Which was written by The Heritage Foundation.

And how many people were in that absurdly small category who are so poor that they can't afford Obamacare but who are also rich enough that they have to pay an income tax greater than 0%? Those tax penalties were cancelled anyway.

And this is somehow supposed to be a moral crime just as bad as destroying the right to an abortion for about half of the country AND causing hundreds of thousand to die needlessly from COVID?

So did Obama and Biden before/after.

Trying is not the same as doing. Obama increased Bush's wars. Trump did not start any new ones. But people like you celebrate Obama..

Obama oversaw numerous troop withdrawals from Iraq during his administration. Biden pulled out of Afghanistan entirely. You are really giving Trump CREDIT for trying and then FAILING to do something so crazy that AMERICAN GENERALS of all people thought was going too far. The only one with TDS here is you.

Reminding them they look the same to those suffering under their policies is what I'm doing. But people like you think that your side is better when it isn't, actually. You're imperialists too. But you act like you're better than the other ones.

How am I an imperialist? For NOT wanting to go to war with Iran or China? For opposing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan?

And you guys are much more annoying than the Republican types because at least they celebrate their own arrogance and ignorance, whereas your ilk think you're above that.

We are. You're the one who is celebrating the arrogance and ignorance of the Republicans.

But for those at the negative end of your policies see you all as the same, or sometimes worse. I think it's the arrogance that accompanies your protestations of being the better side is what makes people dislike your side of the same coin that runs the show, more irritating.

Yeah, liberals are irritating, therefore I must carry water for a white supremacist.

[skinster]

Yeah, they were far too lenient with the sentencing.

Actually, it was a judicial lynching.

You're dodging my question. I still don't understand what you think their motivation for supposedly faking a coup here is supposed to be.

And this is somehow supposed to be a moral crime just as bad as destroying the right to an abortion for about half of the country AND causing hundreds of thousand to die needlessly from COVID?

Obamacare was a scam, written by The Heritage Foundation and by U.S. insurance companies and it was not in the interest of people. The article I shared details all of this.

As for abortion, your boy Obama could've set it in stone, but as I try to explain to you, he doesn't care about you either. Neither of these parties that serve the same interests, ultimately, don't care about you. They use things like healthcare and abortion as a political football and you lot are gullible enough to fall for it, every.single.time.

Obama oversaw numerous troop withdrawals from Iraq during his administration. Biden pulled out of Afghanistan entirely.

Obama tortured, committed the most drone strikes, made war in various other countries (plural) beyond Bush's wars and you're here trying to tell me he is better than Trump. I don't care for either but Obama was objectively worse than Trump. Biden pulled out of Afghanistan to focus on Ukraine. If you're suggesting it was done out of altruism, nothing can save you.

You are really giving Trump CREDIT for trying and then FAILING to do something so crazy that AMERICAN GENERALS of all people thought was going too far. The only one with TDS here is you.

Trump decreased tensions with Syria and DPRK, the latter in a historic manner.

It is you that has Trump Derangement Syndrome. Liberals are too far gone. Nothing can save them. You all can't fathom how you're perceived by people outside of your chamber. The smug attitude and arrogance is fundamental to your thinking about yourselves. You think you're above people in the same country who are a bit more crude about their way of talking or living, but at least they're showing their real selves. You guys put rainbows on weapons and pretend that makes you inclusive and lovely. Plenty see through it.

How am I an imperialist? For NOT wanting to go to war with Iran or China? For opposing the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan? :?:

For defending people like Biden and Obama. You're no doubt going to vote for the dementia patient too. You support imperialism. A way to not support imperialism? Don't vote for imperialists.

We are. You're the one who is celebrating the arrogance and ignorance of the Republicans.

No, you're not. You're worse. I used to think you might be a smidgen better than the other team but after living in the U.S. and experiencing you people first hand, jesus christ, I couldn't think of any group that is worse. And I'm not celebrating the Republicans, I have said they're just as bad. But the Trump Derangement Syndrome on display by your side as if you're any better needs to be highlighted.

Yeah, liberals are irritating, therefore I must carry water for a white supremacist.

Biden is a white supremacist too. Do you forget his programme for Black people in the prisons? The drugs put into their communities? Black Lives Matter became a movement under the "first Black president" who brought slavery to the most prosperous African country, Libya.

So spare me...

[Saeko]

Actually, it was a judicial lynching.

The article: They did crimes and they were punished. Oh no!

https://twitter.com/SystemUpdate_/status/1686756055424888832?s=20

I know all about the sordid history of the FBI, yet you continue to avoid answering what they were even trying to do there that supposedly helps Biden. You've fallen victim to an utterly incoherent conspiracy theory.

Obamacare was a scam, written by The Heritage Foundation and by U.S. insurance companies and it was not in the interest of people. The article I shared details all of this.

Obamacare was an objective improvement over what came before. Call it whatever you like, the material reality doesn't lie.

As for abortion, your boy Obama could've set it in stone, but as I try to explain to you, he doesn't care about you either. Neither of these parties that serve the same interests, ultimately, don't care about you. They use things like healthcare and abortion as a political football and you lot are gullible enough to fall for it, every.single.time.

What's your argument here? Obama wasn't perfect, therefore he is no better than Trump?

Obama tortured, committed the most drone strikes, made war in various other countries (plural) beyond Bush's wars and you're here trying to tell me he is better than Trump. I don't care for either but Obama was objectively worse than Trump.

Yeah, I am. The only reason Trump didn't do ten times worse is because the Pentagon didn't trust him enough to let him do anything. The one time he was able to use the military the way he wanted, he assassinated an Iranian general for no reason.

Biden pulled out of Afghanistan to focus on Ukraine. If you're suggesting it was done out of altruism, nothing can save you.

How is that a bad thing?

Trump decreased tensions with Syria and DPRK, the latter in a historic manner.

No, he didn't. He kissed their asses a little, and accomplished nothing concrete. They thanked him by flying ICBM's over Japan.

It is you that has Trump Derangement Syndrome. Liberals are too far gone. Nothing can save them. You all can't fathom how you're perceived by people outside of your chamber. The smug attitude and arrogance is fundamental to your thinking about yourselves. You think you're above people in the same country who are a bit more crude about their way of talking or living, but at least they're showing their real selves. You guys put rainbows on weapons and pretend that makes you inclusive and lovely. Plenty see through it.



For defending people like Biden and Obama. You're no doubt going to vote for the dementia patient too. You support imperialism. A way to not support imperialism? Don't vote for imperialists.



No, you're not. You're worse. I used to think you might be a smidgen better than the other team but after living in the U.S. and experiencing you people first hand, jesus christ, I couldn't think of any group that is worse. And I'm not celebrating the Republicans, I have said they're just as bad. But the Trump Derangement Syndrome on display by your side as if you're any better needs to be highlighted.



Biden is a white supremacist too. Do you forget his programme for Black people in the prisons? The drugs put into their communities? Black Lives Matter became a movement under the "first Black president" who brought slavery to the most prosperous African country, Libya.

So spare me...

"The left isn't perfect, so they are the devil. The right did something good once, maybe, so they're the best thing ever." -You

[skinster]

The article: They did crimes and they were punished. Oh no!

Yeah, solitary confinement for years for attending a protest that had feds lure them into where the worst they did was vandalism is very deserving.

People like you are okay with these kinds of punishments because you would never stand up to the system, in small ways or big. You are too busy bootlicking it.

I know all about the sordid history of the FBI, yet you continue to avoid answering what they were even trying to do there that supposedly helps Biden. You've fallen victim to an utterly incoherent conspiracy theory.

I'm avoiding it because it's irrelevant; you think it is about Trump being a big scary fascist whereas I know it was about censorship, increasing state powers, culture war and offering sympathy to the likes of AOC and others in the fraud squad.

The point is it wasn't a terrorist attack or insurrection in the way your ilk got hysterical about. It was a psyop. Planned by feds and the DoJ to demonise one of the two teams in your country and increase state powers against everyone. It is you that fell for the conspiracy theory of Jan 6th. The DoJ admitted at least 40 of their operatives were on the ground that day in court. They wanted this to happen and some people who thought they were simply attending a protest got their lives ruined because of it.

Granted, some might say, sucks for them and fuck them. And you're right, it does suck for them. But the problem is, with the types of powers used against them, you've got to be a complete moron if you think the state will stop there. They never do.

And this is precisely why I opposed censorship of people I don't like when it began happening many years ago, against people like the complete nutter Alex Jones, who was amongst the first they went for. I could see the state will censor them first but go for others too who are opposed to the state. And that's exactly what happened.

Your problem is you think because you support the other team, that they will never come for you too. But what happens when the other team wins and these powers are still in place?

Obamacare was an objective improvement over what came before. Call it whatever you like, the material reality doesn't lie.

Citation needed.

What's your argument here? Obama wasn't perfect, therefore he is no better than Trump?

No, my point is that thing your ilk recently got hysterical about (abortion laws) could have ceased being the political football it is by Obama setting it into stone using his powers of president, which he has just like those before and after him. He gives no fuck about abortions just like the others.

So in sum, they're both shit, yet you think the one you bat for is better.

The only reason Trump didn't do ten times worse is because the Pentagon didn't trust him enough to let him do anything.

But they let the Bidens and Obamas do all the shit they like, huh.

These are your people.

How is that a bad thing?

Destroying a country (Afghanistan) and then abandoning to move on to destroy another country (Ukraine)?

Dems: "How is that a bad thing?"

No, he didn't. He kissed their asses a little, and accomplished nothing concrete.

He accomplished a historic movement towards peace with the DPRK.

And look at the state of you, this is what I mean by liberals and their complete lack of principles. You talk shit about movement towards peace between the U.S. and the DPRK - whose country was utterly destroyed by your country in the early 1950s alongside the genocide of 20% of the population - simply because of who made the deal.

Because it was Trump, you guys couldn't give a fuck. But then try to tell me that Biden getting out of and abandoning Afghanistan in the way the U.S. did is a good thing.

"The left isn't perfect, so they are the devil. The right did something good once, maybe, so they're the best thing ever." -You

None of you are left as the common understanding of what left means. You're both rightwing parties. The U.S. is a one-state party with two sides that are both rightwing. The side you're on is the one that is more dishonest and smug about it, too, which is why you're despised the most by some of us.

[JohnRawls]

@Saeko You do understand that Skinster is basically fighting windmills so you are not going to convince her of anything. She is against Nazis but supports Nazis when they attempt a coup. She is against Imperialism but supports Russia at waging an 101 imperialist war. Her Windmill is the West and she will tilt at the West irrelevant of anything. She is the Don Quixote of Pofo.

[Beren]

You do understand that Skinster is basically fighting windmills so you are not going to convince her of anything. She is against Nazis but supports Nazis when they attempt a coup. She is against Imperialism but supports Russia at waging an 101 imperialist war. Her Windmill is the West and she will tilt at the West irrelevant of anything. She is the Don Quixote of Pofo.

With that FBI psyop thing s/he's on his/her mettle anyway, though. It's not like the usual crap we're always tired with but something original indeed.

[JohnRawls]

With that FBI psyop thing s/he's on his/her mettle anyway, though. It's not like the usual crap we're always tired with but something original indeed.

She is easy to persuade as long as it follows her established views. She is easily influenceable.

[Rancid]

SKinster is a MAGA?

Anyway...

Here's to hoping Trump slips on the sidewalk and breaks his neck.

[skinster]

That dark day in U.S. history that some compared to 9/11:

With that FBI psyop thing s/he's on his/her mettle anyway, though. It's not like the usual crap we're always tired with but something original indeed.

There's also the part where they wouldn't release all the footage that would incriminate their agents who were undercover that day.

One of the feds:

[JohnRawls]

SKinster is a MAGA?

Anyway...

Here's to hoping Trump slips on the sidewalk and breaks his neck.

She is now apparently. But anyways, it has always amazed me that American justice system does the right thing literally 99.99% of the time. Hopefully Trump will go to jail for a long time, preferably for life to maximum security for his crimes. And no amount of conspiracy theories are going to stop it.

On a side note I've seen Trumps lawyers video recently and her defence was like "Hunter Biden, laptop, Biden, whatabout that?" which I don't think will fly in court. Actually I saw that Bidens son got punished for buying a gun and some minor tax stuff without his daddy interfering. Proper presidents in US sure have decent restraint(Biden with this and Obama also in the past when one of his relatives[distant?] got deported for his visa expiring).

Trump is basically a clown at this point compared to them.

[Rancid]

She is now apparently. But anyways, it has always amazed me that American justice system does the right thing literally 99.99% of the time. Hopefully Trump will go to jail for a long time, preferably for life to maximum security for his crimes. And no amount of conspiracy theories are going to stop it.

On a side note I've seen Trumps lawyers video recently and her defence was like "Hunter Biden, laptop, Biden, whatabout that?" which I don't think will fly in court. Actually I saw that Bidens son got punished for buying a gun and some minor tax stuff without his daddy interfering. Proper presidents in US sure have decent restraint(Biden with this and Obama also in the past when one of his relatives[distant?] got deported for his visa expiring).

Trump is basically a clown at this point compared to them.

At this point, the problem isn't Trump but all the fucking morons that still follow him. They are giving him power basically. A bunch of cucks.

[skinster]

it has always amazed me that American justice system does the right thing literally 99.99% of the time.

[Beren]

SKinster is a MAGA?

S/he's as MAGA as Putin's MAGA.

[Rancid]

When is Trump going to get locked up for all the bullshit he's saying on social media about the trial?

Fucking shit man. If any of us did what this asshat did, we'd be in prison already.

[Potemkin]

When is Trump going to get locked up for all the bullshit he's saying on social media about the trial?

Fucking shit man. If any of us did what this asshat did, we'd be in prison already.

All his life, Donald Trump has been insulated from the consequences of his own words and actions by his family’s money. He’s had a charmed life. But by now he’s pissed off some very, very powerful people, and he’s running out of road….

[Beren]

All his life, Donald Trump has been insulated from the consequences of his own words and actions by his family’s money. He’s had a charmed life. But by now he’s pissed off some very, very powerful people, and he’s running out of road….

He has some very powerful friends, too.

There there, Donald, there there.

[Potemkin]

He has some very powerful friends, too.

There there, Donald, there there.

Unfortunately, they’re the sort of friends who won’t be able to help him when they come for Donald….

[Beren]

Unfortunately, they’re the sort of friends who won’t be able to help him when they come for Donald….

When Mr. Handshake gets handcuffed?

One has to deal with that for sure.

[SpecialOlympian]

Skinster is basically full on Q brain at this point so who gives a shit what they think? They're probably high as fuck on Ivermectin right now.

Meeting of the minds here with Greenwald and Rogan, lmfao. You're a Katamari of crank magnetism. Which I'll explain to you in simple terms: it's when people who have one stupid, non-sensical belief glom onto others.

Honestly the best indictment to come is when Trump finally gets hit for calling Georgia's Secretary of State and demanding he find more votes for him. I can't wait to hear how our resident morons excuse that, it's going to be really fun. Like there's a lot of shit you can do as president and get away with, but being recorded demanding a change to the vote is one of those few things that will get you across the line and in real trouble.

I will give Trump credit for one thing: he rounded up the worst people in America and got them all arrested. Ski-doo dealership owners, guys who run insurance mills, RV dealership owners, small business tyrants, etc., and convinced them all to fly out to Washington on their own dime to commit Federal crimes and go to prison.

Then he rode off into the sunset with their money and didn't bother to pardon a single one of them. The exact thing all these terrible, stupid people would do to anyone else and absolutely deserved for thinking a lifelong conman gave a shit about them. He was just like them, and treated them as they would treat anyone if they were at the same trophic sphere of political power.

Thank you, former-POTUS Trump, for getting America's worst citizens sent to prison.

[wat0n]

Honestly the best indictment to come is when Trump finally gets hit for calling Georgia's Secretary of State and demanding he find more votes for him. I can't wait to hear how our resident morons excuse that, it's going to be really fun. Like there's a lot of shit you can do as president and get away with, but being recorded demanding a change to the vote is one of those few things that will get you across the line and in real trouble.

Indeed, unlike this one where there's honestly a lot yet to be known, Trump can be flagrantly heard breaking the law. That's the most important indictment, once that gets tried everything else will fall in line.