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Trump " I would bomb Moscow in the event of an attack on Ukraine if he were president" - The Washington Post.

TRUMP HAS a valid point here, Moscow imperial wars have always been triggered by our weak language and actions ! Do you agree with the Republican presidential nominee ?


https://x.com/DevanaUkraine/status/1795565242514059659




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litwin wrote:Trump "I would bomb Moscow in the event of an attack on Ukraine if he were president" - The Washington Post.

TRUMP HAS a valid point here, Moscow imperial wars have always been triggered by our weak language and actions ! Do you agree with the Republican presidential nominee ?



What about US imperial wars? The US outshines Russia by a very wide margin when it comes to military assaults on other nations, isn't this the pot calling the kettle black?

The US and its deranged foreign policy is the greatest threat to world peace, it is not the savior but the instigator and architect of violence.

Russia has been saying for decades that NATO bases in states bordering Russia is seen as a provocation and existential threat, this is hardly disputed.

Ukraine, Zelensky was asked by Putin to agree to not seek NATO membership, yet he did just that knowing full well that Russia would attack Ukraine.

There has even been talk of opening a NATO "liaison office" in Japan, a direct provocation of China, the US wants to be pissing in every one else's backyard, it think it owns the world and has hoodwinked Europe into acting as its delivery boy.

If China offered Cuba the opportunity to join some new East Asia Defense Alliance which would include building bases there and installing nuclear weapons on Cuban soil under Chinese control, how do you think the US would react to that? it might just attack Cuba, don't you agree?
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Sherlock Holmes wrote:Here's a joke "China is a threat to the United States" here's a map showing US military installations around China, please show me the Chinese or Russian bases this close to the USA...

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“How dare the Chinese place their country so close to our military bases?!” >:
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Sherlock Holmes wrote:Here's a joke "China is a threat to the United States" here's a map showing US military installations around China, please show me the Chinese or Russian bases this close to the USA...

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Yeah but all those countries asked US for help mostly and are happy with those bases precisely because they are afraid of Chinese agression.
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Why, congratulations, Mr. President, you got litwins vote.

I liked Trump better when he wanted to destroy the deep state. Not that I ever believed he would, but it was nice he at least mentioned it as a problem. The last president who did didnt do so well (JFK), and the last presidential candidate who did did also not do so well either (RFK sr). Now we have a former president (Trump) and a presidential candidate (RFK jr) who mention it, and I think if RFK jr got the presidency chances would be good he would actually succeed. So thats great. Dont like their chances, but at least its not completely off the radar.

Maybe once people realize the US empire is over it actually turns into a reality.

I also liked Trumps promise on ending the war in Ukraine in 24 hours. Would have not been a hard thing to do in the early stages of the war, by the way. Now no longer possible because the russians dont trust the west anymore.

But hey I'm not an US american so I dont get to vote anyway. So why would Trump care if he gets my vote or not.

I dont fully get why Trump is currently basically lying low. Maybe he feels he has to because of all the lawfare against him. Maybe he realized, just like for example Bernie Sanders apparently did, what kind of opponent the CIA, FBI etc is.

But of course a riddiculous promise to bomb Moscow, thats to the liking of litwin.

Nevermind that theres no military point in attacking Moscow. You want to attack the military installations of an enemy, not the civilian population. The later only gets you in the history books for war crimes, and gives your opponent a massive boost because people will line up to join the military.

And given the current state of the russian military, compared to the NATO military, no such attack stands much of a chance to get through anyway.

Except with ICMBs, and does anybody need explained what happened if the USA attacked Russia with ICBMs ? The exact same thing that would happen if Russia attacked the USA with ICBMs.
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Potemkin wrote:“How dare the Chinese place their country so close to our military bases?!” >:



Putin´s state tv: "who said that we have to stop at the borders of Ukraine?"

US administration : Strikes can be carried out on the territory of Moscow empire exclusively in the Kharkiv region using weapons provided by the United States

https://x.com/i/status/1502808266002284546
What happened to China's Uyghur camps? I want you all hans´lovers to test han´s imperial Medicine first , than we will talk about US bases in SE Asia.
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Sherlock Holmes wrote: What about US imperial wars?The US outshines Russia by a very wide margin when it comes to military assaults on other nations, isn't this the pot calling the kettle black?

The US and its deranged foreign policy is the greatest threat to world peace, it is not the savior but the instigator and architect of violence.

Russia has been saying for decades that NATO bases in states bordering Russia is seen as a provocation and existential threat, this is hardly disputed.

Ukraine, Zelensky was asked by Putin to agree to not seek NATO membership, yet he did just that knowing full well that Russia would attack Ukraine.

There has even been talk of opening a NATO "liaison office" in Japan, a direct provocation of China, the US wants to be pissing in every one else's backyard, it think it owns the world and has hoodwinked Europe into acting as its delivery boy.

If China offered Cuba the opportunity to join some new East Asia Defense Alliance which would include building bases there and installing nuclear weapons on Cuban soil under Chinese control, how do you think the US would react to that? it might just attack Cuba, don't you agree?


I dont do Moscow whataboutism Ivan - Ivan lover

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Will the West Greenlight Strikes Inside Moscow empire for Trigger Happy Ukraine || Peter Zeihan

The UK/EU have already given the go-ahead. 8)
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JohnRawls wrote:Yeah but all those countries asked US for help mostly and are happy with those bases precisely because they are afraid of Chinese agression.


The US doesn't ever "help", everything is done as part of the ambition to be the dominant global power. (Christian) East Timor asked for US help when it was invaded by (Muslim) Indonesia in 1975, the US did not help and in fact supplied weapons to Indonesia.

East Timor and its people bravely sided with the West against the Japanese in WW2. When they needed help years later they did not get any help, the US walked away and many were slaughtered.

The Japanese during WW2 committed atrocities in China, cutting off babies heads and skewering them on spears stuck in the ground, their barbarity is well known with ample documentation. The US now has military bases all over Japan, yet China has no reason to perceive a threat?

The US dropped bombs on Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Korea, Indonesia, the US occupied part of China between 1945 and 1949. None of the countries (all close to China) ever asked to be helped by being bombed where today children still regularly lose limbs because of unexploded US ordnance.

The US tested nuclear weapons on Australian soil making areas uninhabitable for centuries.

The US destroyed the lives of the people who lived on Bikini Atoll by testing 23 nuclear weapons over 12 years, residents were forcibly relocated and today are plagued by alcoholism and destitution, forever separated from their once idyllic homeland.

It is perverse to describes these (and many more) acts as "help".

Watch for yourself how the US "helped" East Timor:

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Sherlock Holmes wrote:The US doesn't ever "help", everything is done as part of the ambition to be the dominant global power. East Timor asked for US help when it was invaded by Indonesia in 1975, the US did not help and in fact supplied weapons to Indonesia.

East Timor and its people bravely sided with the West against the Japanese in WW2. When they needed help years later they did not get any help, the US walked away and many were slaughtered.

The Japanese during WW2 committed atrocities in China, cutting off babies heads and skewering them on spears stuck in the ground, their barbarity is well known with ample documentation. The US now has military bases all over Japan, yet China has no reason to perceive a threat?

The US dropped bombs on Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Korea, Indonesia, the US occupied part of China between 1945 and 1949.

The US tested nuclear weapons on Australian soil making areas uninhabitable for centuries.

The US destroyed the lives of the people who lived on Bikini Atoll by testing 23 nuclear weapons over 12 years, residents were forcibly relocated and today are plagued by alcoholism and destitution, forever separated from their once idyllic homeland.

It is perverse to describes these (and many more) acts as "help".


I don't know man, I would be pretty happy if US also builds a military base here in Estonia to directly target St Petersburg and Moscow with nuclear missiles or something. Would be nice if they position a division of armor also. Along with the other NATO bases that are already here.
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JohnRawls wrote:I don't know man, I would be pretty happy if US also builds a military base here in Estonia to directly target St Petersburg and Moscow with nuclear missiles or something. Would be nice if they position a division of armor also. Along with the other NATO bases that are already here.


That would likely make Estonia a specific target should Russia decide the existential threat it is facing is so dire, so be careful what you wish for. Placing US weapons and troops right on the Russian border is - to put it mildly - an act of provocation.

The US and Germany recently approved of Ukraine using weapons supplied by them, to target sites inside Russia, this makes it clear that the US and Germany are prepared to use Ukraine as a proxy to attack Russia.
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litwin wrote:I dont do Moscow whataboutism Ivan - Ivan lover

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Will the West Greenlight Strikes Inside Moscow empire for Trigger Happy Ukraine || Peter Zeihan

The UK/EU have already given the go-ahead. 8)


You have no idea what you are advocating. The US is setting the stage for confrontations that it cannot win, it seeks conflict and war at every turn and sooner or later this is going to backfire and impact people in the United States, nuclear weapons will be used and it could be avoided if the US focused on the wellbeing of its own population and not on the domination of people on the other side of the globe.
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Trump is all over the place. Flip flops. Not a person you want with this sort of decision making power.

Don't fall for when he say's some shit you might agree/like. He say's what he say's to get dumbasses to vote and support him.

And no, we shouldn't be bombing Moscow
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Sherlock Holmes wrote:That would likely make Estonia a specific target should Russia decide the existential threat it is facing is so dire, so be careful what you wish for. Placing US weapons and troops right on the Russian border is - to put it mildly - an act of provocation.

The US and Germany recently approved of Ukraine using weapons supplied by them, to target sites inside Russia, this makes it clear that the US and Germany are prepared to use Ukraine as a proxy to attack Russia.


We are anyways a target so better to be armed to the teeth against the imperialist agressor.

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