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By Jonnorth
#15041935
It is unfair to discriminate Indians and humiliate them by calling them national minorities, insisting that they are aliens in this country and that they should "go home", although America was and is their home even before the Europeans came to the country.

At the moment, the situation with the Indians at the official level is peaceful, as the federal authorities are obliged to provide members of the Indian tribes with a number of special cultural and economic benefits, including full exemption from local and federal taxes, medical and educational grants. This can be called compensation for lost territories.

However, sitting in one of the cafes, I was faced with a situation that just stunned me: three white guys actively discussed a married couple of Indian origin, called them «freaks» and even expressed their dissatisfaction with their presence in America - like «America is for Whites only». Can this actually be called a manifestation of nationalism, or maybe neo-Nazism?

Of course, it was convenient for white Americans to use the Indians during the wars as “code talkers” and “wild animals that are not a pity if they die” but it is very possible thanks to them that those three guys in the cafe peacefully drank coffee being healthy and free.

Many of today's Indians live on reservations, where we all can see big “No trespassing. Violators will be shot. Survivors will be shot again" posters. They feel like strangers in their own state and the problem of the indigenous inhabitants of America cannot be called resolved.

Yes, the authorities legalized gambling in reservations, but for what purpose? I find this even offensive. By the word «help» I understand the construction of hospitals with the further provision of accessible to all medical care, educational institutions, libraries, stores, etc., and not casinos, which are actually alien to the Indian culture and corrupting Aboriginal people of America.

Despite the formal presence of citizenship, indigenous people still have to literally conquer their rights through civic activism and protests. And Indians are remembered only when they are needed or loudly declare about themselves.
#15041937
Jonnorth wrote:However, sitting in one of the cafes, I was faced with a situation that just stunned me: three white guys actively discussed a married couple of Indian origin, called them «freaks» and even expressed their dissatisfaction with their presence in America - like «America is for Whites only». Can this actually be called a manifestation of nationalism, or maybe neo-Nazism?


Yea, these guys are fucking assholes and should be kicked out of America.
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Elizabeth Warren has a Native American ancestor who can be traced back to 6-10 generations ago. The number of Americans claiming Native American ancestry is surging as it can now be confirmed through DNA tests. The claiming of Native American heritage has long been an important aspect of US culture and they are proud of their heritage. In Louisiana, about 8% of European Americans carry at least 1% Native American ancestry. Louisiana was a trading hub where different populations met and mingled. Oklahoma, where Warren was born, is the state where most Americans have significant Native American ancestry. That contact can be traced back to the Trail of Tears, when thousands of Native Americans were forcibly relocated to Oklahoma.

On October 15, The Boston Globe, The Washington Post and other news outlets reported that a DNA test taken by US Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) showed evidence of some Native American ancestry. The results come in response to a challenge from President Donald Trump in July to prove her long-standing claim of Native American ancestry by taking a DNA test. He has derisively referred to her as “Pocahontas” and accused her of using the claim of Native American heritage to advance her career.





Warren went to Stanford University’s Bustamante Lab. The lab’s Principal Investigator, Carlos Bustamante, PhD., wrote up her results, which can be summarized as follows. The analysis identified 5 genetic segments as Native American in origin at high confidence, defined at the 99% posterior probability value. The report’s executive summary states, “We find strong evidence that a DNA sample of primarily European descent also contains Native American ancestry from an ancestor in the sample’s pedigree 6-10 generations ago. We find little or no evidence of African ancestry in this sample.”

Executive Summary. We find strong evidence that a DNA sample of primarily European descent also contains Native American ancestry from an ancestor in the sample’s pedigree 6-10 generations ago. We find little or no evidence of African ancestry in this sample. Request.

Results. The results were as follows:
(1) The great majority of the individual’s identifiable ancestry is European: 95% of high confidence segments (defined as those segments with at least 99% posterior probability of assignment) were identified by RFMix as being of European origin. This is likely an underestimate as many of the segments not classified as high-confidence are also likely to be European in origin. The analysis also identified 5 genetic segments as Native American in origin at high confidence, defined at the 99% posterior probability value. We performed several additional analyses to confirm the presence of Native American ancestry and to estimate the position of the ancestor in the individual’s pedigree.

(2) The largest segment identified as having Native American ancestry is on chromosome 10. This segment is 13.4 centiMorgans in genetic length, and spans approximately 4,700,000 DNA bases. Base on a principal components analysis (Novembre et al., 2008), this segment is clearly distinct from segments of European ancestry (nominal p-value 7.4 x 10-7, corrected p-value of 2.6 x 10-4) and is strongly associated with Native American ancestry.

(3) The total length of the 5 genetic segments identified as having Native American ancestry is 25.6 centiMorgans, and they span approximately 12,300,000 DNA bases. The average segment length is 5.8 centiMorgans. The total and average segment size suggest (via the method of moments) an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the pedigree at approximately 8 generations before the sample, although the actual number could be somewhat lower or higher (Gravel, 2012 and Huff et al., 2011).

Conclusion. While the vast majority of the individual’s ancestry is European, the results strongly support the existence of an unadmixed Native American ancestor in the individual’s pedigree, likely in the range of 6-10 generations ago.

https://web.archive.org/web/20181015162 ... t_2018.pdf
Last edited by ThirdTerm on 15 Oct 2019 00:31, edited 2 times in total.
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ThirdTerm wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba5TqVqx-uE

Elizabeth Warren has a Native American ancestor who can be traced back to 6-10 generations ago. The number of Americans claiming Native American ancestry is surging as it can now be confirmed through DNA tests. The claiming of Native American heritage has long been an important aspect of US culture and they are proud of their heritage. In Louisiana, about 8% of European Americans carry at least 1% Native American ancestry. Louisiana was a trading hub where different populations met and mingled. Oklahoma, where Warren was born, is the state where most Americans have significant Native American ancestry. That contact can be traced back to the Trail of Tears, when thousands of Native Americans were forcibly relocated to Oklahoma.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... sy-n968576

Yes, and then she publicly apologized for her claims... Indeed, Cherokee affiliation is based on centuries-old traditions and culture, and not on DNA tests results
#15042298
Jonnorth wrote:However, sitting in one of the cafes, I was faced with a situation that just stunned me: three white guys actively discussed a married couple of Indian origin, called them «freaks» and even expressed their dissatisfaction with their presence in America - like «America is for Whites only». Can this actually be called a manifestation of nationalism, or maybe neo-Nazism?

It's an example of neo-assholeism, is what it is. People like that are living proof of how right Nietzsche was when he said that most people do not have thoughts, they have symptoms. :roll:
#15042373
Potemkin wrote:It's an example of neo-assholeism, is what it is. People like that are living proof of how right Nietzsche was when he said that most people do not have thoughts, they have symptoms. :roll:


Mb... But after hearing such impolite words I just want to kill them or myself :knife:
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