- 24 Oct 2020 03:22
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You just ignored a historical fact to make an ad hominem.
This is very poor debating.
And now you are deliberately ignoring a question and making ad hominems.
Again, which socialist movement have you supported?
If you have not supported any, then you are (at best) an ivory tower or champagne socialist, or (at worst) not a socialist at all.
There is a crack in everything,
That's how the light gets in...
Sivad wrote:This thinking is stupid for oh so many reasons but the main one being that gulaging society and committing mass human rights abuses totally defeats the whole purpose of socialism. These deranged gulagists are all like 'we had to burn that village in order to save it'. gulagism is just totally fucking absurd.
You just ignored a historical fact to make an ad hominem.
This is very poor debating.
Socialism is by definition pro-social so engaging in extreme anti-social despotic repression of whole societies just isn't an option for anyone who's truly committed to the principles of socialism.
You people aren't socialists, you're gulag collectivists. And gulag collectivism may be better than other extreme forms of tyranny like caudillo capitalism but it's definitely not an ideal to aspire to or anything to be celebrated. It's fucking horrible and the fuckers that impose it on society aren't liberators or heros of the people, they're violent oppresive maniacs and the best you can say about them and their regimes is that they were slightly less violent oppresive maniacs than the worst violent oppressive maniacs in history.
And now you are deliberately ignoring a question and making ad hominems.
Again, which socialist movement have you supported?
If you have not supported any, then you are (at best) an ivory tower or champagne socialist, or (at worst) not a socialist at all.
There is a crack in everything,
That's how the light gets in...