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Charles Moore of the Telegraph wrote:The Rustat hearing at Cambridge should be a turning point in the war against woke
A judge has rejected Jesus College's attempt to remove the memorial. This should give all such "anti-racist" institutions pause for thought

Without intending any disrespect, I think one can say that a judgment in the Consistory Court of the Diocese of Ely would not normally affect our public life. The Church of England is “by law established”, so ecclesiastical law is part of English law but usually this need not trouble the scorers.

This week, not so. A carefully argued judgment by Judge David Hodge forbade the removal of a 17th-century memorial from the chapel of Jesus College, Cambridge. It will help protect our heritage, expose weak leadership in our great institutions and help turn the tide of jiggery-wokery.

Before I explain why, please excuse some recent history.

Two years ago, as the world became infected by a plague which the Chinese regime had tried to hide, I came across the website of the China Centre at Jesus College. Its wording struck me. It made no pretence to academic detachment. Using Xi Jinping’s pet phrase “national rejuvenation”, it praised the “extraordinary transformation” wrought by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) leadership.

Further inquiry showed a pervasive yet opaque college engagement with CCP-backed bodies. Professor Peter Nolan, who runs the centre, would not speak publicly about it. The college’s wider China engagement included a UK/China Global Issues Dialogue Centre, conferences (some not ostensibly China-related), receptions, prize-givings, oily speeches in Beijing etc, backed enthusiastically by Cambridge’s vice-chancellor. No forum criticised the Chinese regime – holding events, for example, about the suppression of Hong Kong or the enslavement of the Uyghurs. Only this month did Jesus finally print figures showing that the college has taken nearly £1.5 million from regime-controlled Chinese sources in the past five years. I think that will prove a conservative estimate.

Journalistically, I had hit a rich seam. Controversy rose. Distinguished alumni expressed unease.

At the same time, Jesus College, so reticent about China, turned on another source of its money. Tobias Rustat, a 17th-century supporter of King Charles II, rewarded for his loyalty in the long years of exile, could not hit back, being dead. Rustat’s donations still pay for college benefactions today.

Given extra impetus by the Black Lives Matter pile-on after the murder of George Floyd in May 2020, the college has a Legacy of Slavery Working Party (LSWP). In June 2020, I discovered that Rustat was being what George Orwell called “unpersoned” by the LSWP because of his links with the slave trade. In November 2020, the new Master, Sonita Alleyne, said his Grinling Gibbons memorial in the chapel should be removed. Because it is in a Grade 1-listed church, this required legal permission from the Diocese of Ely. The college would petition for this. “The Church is very supportive of our considerations,” added the Master, unwisely pre-empting any court case.

As early as June, an old colleague had put me in touch with a Jesuan friend (as the alumni are called). He and his Jesuan contemporaries did not like the trashing of a great college benefactor. They suspected the charges against Rustat were factually weak. They felt that alumni, always courted by the college for their money, should not be ignored here.

They wrote to the Master but got no satisfaction. As the plan to remove Rustat’s statue grew, I asked heritage experts about the law. I learnt that the bar for removing a leading piece of heritage from a church is, rightly, very high. The burden of proof would lie on the college.

In discussion, the Jesuan and I agreed Jesus College should bear that burden in court. He consulted the large numbers of interested alumni. He won strong backing. Sixty-five signed up as the “parties opponent” in court, ready to share any costs.

Hence the contested case. As is required, numerous learned bodies were consulted. Most came down, on conservation and heritage grounds, against moving the Rustat memorial. The alumni did proper historical research. Their suspicions were confirmed: although Rustat had indeed invested in a company which traded in slaves, he had lost money by doing so (serves him right, perhaps). His wealth had other sources. Contrary to the LSWP, he gave no slavery money to Jesus.

Last month, the court hearing took place dramatically – in chapel, beside the Rustat memorial. I went to Cambridge to watch. Most college witnesses seemed a little unsteady on the Rustat facts. The Master herself barely addressed them, preferring to make an emotional speech as if shaped for “anti-racist” learning materials rather than the issues before the court. Unless Rustat went, she said, she would not – could not – pray in the chapel.

On Wednesday, Judge Hodge published his 108-page judgment. The removal of the Rustat memorial would indeed cause “notable” damage to the heritage of the chapel, he said. He did not accept the college’s view that the mission of the Church was harmed by Rustat continuing to stay in the chapel after 330 years there.

Although carefully moderate in tone, as good judges are, he was tough on the conduct of the college authorities. The chair of the LSWP, Dr Véronique Mottier, had been “an underwhelming witness’” who was “firmly wedded to her own entrenched opinions and unwilling to recognise any views other than her own”. In several answers, she had “not been frank”; in one, she had been “untruthful”.

The facts about Rustat did matter, the judge said. A student member of the LSWP had emailed all undergraduates saying that Rustat “amassed much of his wealth from the Royal African Company that captured and shipped more enslaved African women, men and children to the Americas than any other single institution during the entire period of the transatlantic slave trade”. This stirred up students to support the removal, but it was factually wrong in relation to Rustat. The LSWP never corrected this error, so the college put out “a false narrative” against its own benefactor and never corrected it.

In essence, the judge was saying to Jesus College: “You are wrong in law. You did not do your homework properly. You have not dealt fairly with critics.”

How could this ancient, learned charitable institution have got itself into such expensive litigation and reputational damage? How could it not see the hypocrisy of aerating (on factually inadequate grounds) about someone who died more than three centuries ago, while failing to confront the evil done to human dignity by the CCP regime whose money it was trousering?

These issues go wider than one college. The Rustat judgment should encourage all lovers of heritage to resist such removals, backed by the law. It should also deter all leaders and institutions tempted to play to the woke gallery.

I am afraid one figure who emerges poorly from this unnecessary adventure is the Archbishop of Canterbury. While his own Church’s court was deliberating the Rustat case, Justin Welby exclaimed publicly, “Why is it such agony to remove a memorial to slavery?” It reminded me how he plunged into the case of the late Bishop George Bell, falsely accusing him of paedophile acts, and years later apologised. The answer to the Archbishop’s question is Judge Hodge’s judgment itself. The Rustat monument is not a memorial to slavery, but to philanthropy. The fact that Rustat had done some bad things is not decisive: “From a Christian perspective, every memorial is a memorial to a sinner.”

Start from that forgiving, Christian premise, and we might begin to get some of these contests over heritage right.


The first Black person and the first woman to lead Jesus College is consuming herself in leading a personal battle against the benefactors of the institution she chairs instead of actually leading the institution itself.

Mirroring Dan-el Padilla Peralta of Princeton who is leading a war against the Classics that he leads, they are both doing a disservice to the community they purport to represent chasing ghosts for their own personal gratification instead of helping the living to learn & thrive.

Make no mistake this assault on European culture is directly funded by enemy states seeking to undermine our confidence & sap our institutions seeking out useful idiots from both ends of the spectrum.

Putin speaks directly to the outraged conservatives seeking to align himself with J.K Rowling pretending to lead the war against "wokism" and "cancel culture" while he imprisons and poisons any critical voice. :knife: This mega irony is apparently missed by our resident right-wingers, when the Arch Priest of Cancellation by death, prison and poison is deriding other nations for standing by peace and national self-determination.

While China seeks to fund and speak to the outraged woke who are merely looking for yet another reason to feel outraged in an attempt to undermine the great institutions that propel our cultural and scientific work.

Well done to the Archdiocese of Ely for having the courage to stand up and emphasize fact over feeling.
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noemon wrote:The first Black person and the first woman to lead Jesus College is consuming herself in leading a personal battle against the benefactors of the institution she chairs instead of actually leading the institution itself.

Mirroring Dan-el Padilla Peralta of Princeton who is leading a war against the Classics that he leads, they are both doing a disservice to the community they purport to represent chasing ghosts for their own personal gratification instead of helping the living to learn & thrive.

Make no mistake this assault on European culture is directly funded by enemy states seeking to undermine our confidence & sap our institutions seeking out useful idiots from both ends of the spectrum.

Putin speaks directly to the outraged conservatives seeking to align himself with J.K Rowling pretending to lead the war against "wokism" and "cancel culture" while he imprisons and poisons any critical voice. :knife: This mega irony is apparently missed by our resident right-wingers, when the Arch Priest of Cancellation by death, prison and poison is deriding other nations for standing by peace and national self-determination.

While China seeks to fund and speak to the outraged woke who are merely looking for yet another reason to feel outraged in an attempt to undermine the great institutions that propel our cultural and scientific work.

Well done the Archdiocese of Ely for having the courage to stand up and emphasize fact over feeling.

An interesting case. As I have said before, almost everyone of any social or financial standing in the British Isles in the 17th century was implicated in the trans-Atlantic slave trade, to one degree or another. It was, after all, a massive part of the national economy back then. Should we therefore cancel the entire history of 17th century Britain? This is nonsense. Put up a notice beside the memorial to Rustat outlining his sins, and leave it at that.

Oh, and most “virtue”, on both the Left and the Right, is just virtue signalling. For centuries, ‘the Great and the Good’ of our history have been celebrated as virtuous benefactors and kind-hearted philanthropists, when in fact they were brutal exploiters and slavers. And our modern ‘woke’ progressives are silent about the repressions committed by the CCP so long as the CCP is filling their pockets with cash. How is this different from Rustat’s moral hypocrisy back in the 17th century?
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Potemkin wrote: And our modern ‘woke’ progressives are silent about the repressions committed by the CCP so long as the CCP is filling their pockets with cash. How is this different from Rustat’s moral hypocrisy back in the 17th century?


It's very different, it is foreign and more importantly, it is financing the purpose of undermining our economy and progress while Rustat was funneling money for the benefit of the economy and progress. 2 very different things.

And to the point of 'hypocrisy', Rustat was not a hypocrite during his lifetime and neither was Cambridge.
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noemon wrote:It's very different, it is foreign and more importantly, it is financing the purpose of undermining our economy and progress while Rustat was funneling money for the benefit of the economy and progress. 2 very different things.

In your opinion. Rustat was funnelling money for the benefit of the ruling classes and his own status in society. In my opinion.

And how does China putting money into the British economy “undermine” that economy? :eh:

And to the point of 'hypocrisy', Rustat was not a hypocrite during his lifetime and neither was Cambridge.

How is making money from enslaving others compatible with Christian morality, @noemon?
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Potemkin wrote:In your opinion. Rustat was funnelling money for the benefit of the ruling classes and his own status in society. In my opinion.

And how does China putting money into the British economy “undermine” that economy? :eh:


Rustat was funding science, China is funding wokism. Wokism saps the economy rather than propping it.


How is making money from enslaving others compatible with Christian morality, @noemon?


:lol: So you went there despite contradicting your own self in your previous post. :lol:

1) Rustat did not make any money from slavery. He lost money.
2) Christian morality has been good with slavery for 1600 years. Ceasar's to Ceasar.
3) British society morality during Rustat's time was absolutely fine with slavery as you yourself said.
4) African Continent morality that hunts and sells slaves is still good with slavery.
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noemon wrote:Rustat was funding science, China is funding wokism. Wokism saps the economy rather than propping it.

“Funding wokism”? Lol.

:lol: So you went there despite contradicting your own self in your previous post. :lol:

1) Rustat did not make any money from slavery. He lost money.
2) Christian morality has been good with slavery for 1600 years. Ceasar's to Ceasar.
3) British society morality during Rustat's time was absolutely fine with slavery as you yourself said.
4) African Continent morality that hunts and sells slaves is still good with slavery.

Fine, but it at least needs to be mentioned on any monument to Rustat, or indeed any monument to any of the Great and the Good who benefitted or even tried to benefit from the slave trade. Let’s not ‘cancel’ our history, let’s remember it, warts and all.
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Potemkin wrote: Lol.


Lol is not a reply.

Fine, but it at least needs to mentioned on any monument to Rustat, or indeed any monument to any of the Great and the Good who benefitted or even tried to benefit from the slave trade. Let’s not ‘cancel’ our history, let’s remember it, warts and all.


Sure. If you want to put a sign that says that Rustat lost x amount of sterling during his brief and minor investment in the African trading company, then why not write his entire biography on the plaque.

Why put this tidbit? and not all tidbits? Oh wait, we already do that in our history books and encyclopedias. :eh:
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noemon wrote:Lol is not a reply.



Sure. If you want to put a sign that says that Rustat lost x amount of sterling during his brief and minor investment in the African trading company, then why not write his entire biography on the plaque.

Why put this tidbit? and not all tidbits? Oh wait, we already do that in our history books and encyclopedias. :eh:

You’ve been in Cambridge too long, and you’ve been reading the Torygraph too long, @noemon. You’re turning into a red-faced Colonel Blimp. ;)
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Potemkin wrote:You’ve been in Cambridge too long, and you’ve been reading the Torygraph too long, @noemon. You’re turning into a red-faced Colonel Blimp. ;)


Said Erotokritos.

You seem to have forgotten myself in the past Potemkin.

Cambridge has mellowed me down a lot. Yourself on the other hand seems more preoccupied with virtue signalling than anything else.

Your loss on the videoclip. It’s hilarious.
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I don’t understand why you have such a hard time reconciling Putins authoritarianism and his wanting to stamp out wokism….seems like the only antidote to me sadly :|

Maybe the world needs one GIANT Putin bitch slap to bring it back to its senses *shrugs*
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ness31 wrote:I don’t understand why you have such a hard time reconciling Putins authoritarianism and his wanting to stamp out wokism….seems like the only antidote to me sadly :|

Maybe the world needs one GIANT Putin bitch slap to bring it back to its senses *shrugs*


Have you considered the possibility that it may be yourself that requires the GIANT bitch slap to come to your senses?

1) Abiding by the wishes of the transgender and gay community is a FAR BETTER proposition than living a life of terror under which a government critic faces 3-6 years in prison. What kind of idiot prefers to live in a world where the government would put them in prison for criticising that government just so they are free to not tolerate gay and transgender people?
2) What on earth makes you think that Putin wants or can solve the transgender issue in Spain or the US?
3) How can anyone reconcile these? Nor just me, but anyone? Under what kind of logic?
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What makes you think woke equates solely to trans issues?

Edited : or maybe the question should be, what makes you think I equate woke solely with trans issues? This thread was about tearing down a memorial that people tried to link to ill gotten gains from slavery. Where did I even mention trans?
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@noemon

Free speech

Is this not the same road that leads Putin to rail against Russian traitors and cancel culture. And if you are on the same path, are you not worried you will end up in the same place?


:eh:
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I'm not sure how free speech is harmed by the court ruling. Being a government institution, the Church is messing with public property so of course the wider community has something to say about it.

Maybe the guys at Jesus College should request for the Church to be disestablished if they want to be treated as a private institution that can do whatever it wants with its private property.
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watOn wrote:I'm not sure how free speech is harmed

When this Tory war on the woke seeks to restrict universities to a strictly anglocentric viewpoint; ban schools from using material from groups it considers anti-capitalist; label Greenpeace a terrorist group for saying things that embarrass the government; etc., etc., it's something we should all be worried about.


:lol:
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noemon wrote:Free speech is now removing plaques from a heritage building for no reason whatsoever? But not to criticise Putin whom you support?

Go find useful idiots in Russia dude.

You think being involved in the trans-Atlantic slave trade is "no reason at all"? As I said, you've been in Cambridge too long, @noemon. You've gone native. :lol:
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ingliz wrote:When this Tory war on the woke seeks to restrict universities to a strictly anglocentric viewpoint; ban schools from using material from groups it considers anti-capitalist; label Greenpeace a terrorist group for saying things that embarrass the government; etc., etc., it's something we should all be worried about.


:lol:


That's why courts exist, to provide a check against arbitrary government actions.
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