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Are you negative or critical of the United States of America?

Yes, I am negative or critical of the United States of America
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No, I am not negative or critical of the United States of America
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12%
I am neither negative nor positive about the United States of America
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annatar1914 wrote:I think the key takeaway here with @Rich is that he thinks the USA should have made peace with the Fascists in WWII, or not have gone to war with them in the first place. He also knows that Anti-Communism was the Trojan Horse for Fascists to operate in alliance with America during the Cold War, and all this to him is a good thing.

Rich is no dummy, I'm sure he's read all the right people.



Fuck me. Do we read different things? @Rich is anti communism and thinks we need to smash it down. His references are always about the ills of Stalinism, Mao and occasionally Castro. He hates Socialism in any shape or form and always sides with the imperial narrative when referencing points. He most definitely does not want the West to make peace with fascism and I suspect justifies all the wars we do to some extent because of that (he is anti Islam). Any user who thinks Cameron and May were geniuses who architect the perfect Brexit withdrawal, has a warped state of Patriotism and most of his posts belong back when The British Empire was a thing. Times have changed. Trying to shape the world to the Western image does not work and we should cooperate and not shape the world if we want to maintain the order. Otherwise the world will just align with China because otherwise to align with the West requires interference.
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B0ycey wrote:Fuck me. Do we read different things? @Rich is anti communism and thinks we need to smash it down. His references are always about the ills of Stalinism, Mao and occasionally Castro. He hates Socialism in any shape or form and always sides with the imperial narrative when referencing points. He most definitely does not want the West to make peace with fascism and I suspect justifies all the wars we do to some extent because of that (he is anti Islam). Any user who thinks Cameron and May were geniuses who architect the perfect Brexit withdrawal, has a warped state of Patriotism and most of his posts belong back when The British Empire was a thing. Times have changed. Trying to shape the world to the Western image does not work and we should cooperate and not shape the world if we want to maintain the order. Otherwise the world will just align with China because otherwise to align with the West requires interference.


This is a great post B0ycey. First because it is right about what needs to happen. The days of interfering too much with cultures and governments with bullshit manipulations of force and economics is soon going to be scrapped because it takes away focus from many nations internal problems and the lack of equality in wealth distribution creates too many migrants and instability that many ex empire nations can no longer address with just bullshit visas that jump put people in foreign situations expecting them to adapt without proper training and education and investment. It does not work that way.

Once you make bad habits a custom in communities for profit only? You get massive problems. Focus on clean water, healthy diet and exercise habits, good education programs, and livable wages and respecting the environment. It is the only series of actions that have a snowball chance in hell of reversing the damage these greedy capitalist banks and corporations have dumped on humanity's doorstep.

A documentary about Coca-Cola in Chiapas and Mexico. I live in a nation addicted to Coca-Cola drinks and this is what it creates. Diabetes en masse and mass death.

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@B0ycey ;

Fuck me. Do we read different things? @Rich is anti communism and thinks we need to smash it down. His references are always about the ills of Stalinism, Mao and occasionally Castro. He hates Socialism in any shape or form and always sides with the imperial narrative when referencing points.


Right, he's an Anti-Communist/Anti-Socialist, but not as someone coming from the perspective of liberal representative democracy.

He most definitely does not want the West to make peace with fascism and I suspect justifies all the wars we do to some extent because of that (he is anti Islam).


Not sure where you see @Rich as being antifascist. I guess we'd have to let him explain his position. I know from several years ago before I stopped posting back then, that Rich was against any Monotheism as far as I could tell.


Any user who thinks Cameron and May were geniuses who architect the perfect Brexit withdrawal, has a warped state of Patriotism and most of his posts belong back when The British Empire was a thing. Times have changed. Trying to shape the world to the Western image does not work and we should cooperate and not shape the world if we want to maintain the order. Otherwise the world will just align with China because otherwise to align with the West requires interference.


I'm not a huge fan of China, but I think this crisis of power politics between China and the United States could force America to have a more sane working class people attitude.
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annatar1914 wrote:Right, he's an Anti-Communist/Anti-Socialist, but not as someone coming from the perspective of liberal representative democracy.


I have been reading Rich since our Brexit days. He waffles alot of shit about WW2, Nazis, Rome, and British nationalism in general. I would like to call him a nationalist. Although he was a Remainer. But a Remainer who likes to remind our European friends what we did for them in the war I might add. He is anti vax, but only because he thinks we should vax the 3 world first and he is very critical of Islam. Basically not really a liberal. He is what I consider outdated. Someone who reminiscent of old times and forgets what is the cause of the fall of Western society. Our foes don't hate the West because we are saving them. They hate us because we attack them first.

Not sure where you see @Rich as being antifascist. I guess we'd have to let him explain his position. I know from several years ago before I stopped posting back then, that Rich was against any Monotheism as far as I could tell.


Well I can tell you now he doesn't waste a second on slamming on Nazis, Mussolini, Franco, Stalin and Mao.

I'm not a huge fan of China, but I think this crisis of power politics between China and the United States could force America to have a more sane working class people attitude.


America has already made the changes actually since AUKUS. It is Biden not Xi who is pushing for dialogue at the moment. But even so, I think everyone is realising that Taiwan is a 'when' rather than 'if' question and America need to realise what they are going to do when that 'when' comes into action. America will hope to stall China as long as possible. But I suspect China is waiting to gain better support within Taiwan before doing anythinb. That might take decades but it is better to do that than just invade given you can't win the minds of people if you do that. So what should America do? Well try and get China to talk to Taiwan. This issue can only be resolved if Beijing and Taipei have dialogue. I'm sure Taiwan can have everything it has now and keep China out of their internal politics if they drop any notion of independence. But whilst they talk of independence, they can expect more flyovers and aggressive action. It is after all their airspace they consider flying in given to China Taiwan is a breakaway province.
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