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Which Israel/Palestine solution do you support?

One-State Solution #1
10
14%
One-State Solution #2
8
11%
Two-State Solution
24
34%
Three-State Solution #1
4
6%
Three-State Solution #2
12
17%
Status Quo
1
1%
Other
11
16%
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By sans-culotte
#13179188
Israelis.

It will be pretty hard to replace 1/2 of all construction workers and the 20% or so in most other industries given the type of work done and the wages paid
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By Ombrageux
#13179312
2-state solution: dissolution of the settlements, creation of a Palestinian state.
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By Dr House
#13179318
sans-culotte wrote:It will be pretty hard to replace 1/2 of all construction workers and the 20% or so in most other industries given the type of work done and the wages paid

They can be paid higher salaries. Problem solved.
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By Figlio di Moros
#13179336
Ombrageux wrote:2-state solution: dissolution of the settlements, creation of a Palestinian state.


The fact is, as long as Palestine exists they'll never cease to end fighting for their land back. Only a one-state solution is a solution, otherwise the 2-state solution might have worked somewhere in the last 60 yrs.
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By Ombrageux
#13179344
The fact is that between 1956 and 1967 there were virtually no Israelis that died. Any threat to Israel at that time was posed by Egypt and Syria, Arab states, not peoples. Today, Egypt is friendly and Syria is weak. If the Israelis retrenched, they would be secure, the Palestinians have never posed a serious threat to them except insofar as they were dominated.
By Icon
#13179347
The fact is, as long as Palestine exists they'll never cease to end fighting for their land back. Only a one-state solution is a solution, otherwise the 2-state solution might have worked somewhere in the last 60 yrs.


The 2-state solution has never been seriously implemented.
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By Figlio di Moros
#13179351
Icon wrote:The 2-state solution has never been seriously implemented.


The one-state solution has never been seriously considered, either; there's no reason to believe the 2-state solution, after more than half a century of being blown off and continually resulting in military action, would work now.
By jaycola
#13179358
3 state solution #2
I'd love to see Egypt and Jordan take over the territories but I don't think they would take them.
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By Ombrageux
#13179386
FDM - Israel has been implementing a one-state solution since 1967.
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By Captain Sam
#13179499
FDM - Israel has been implementing a one-state solution since 1967.

No it hasn't. The West Bank isn't annexed by Israel, it's occupied. Israel doesn't recognize the West Bank or Golan Heights as part of Israel, nor Gaza (obviously). Only East Jerusalem was annexed by Israel, and no one but Syria cares about Israel obtaining the Golan Heights. Golan Heights is de facto annexed. The region was sparsely populated to begin with, and most of the population was Druze that accepted Israeli citizenship. Nearly all the Arabs fled.

There are two reasons why Israel maintains control of the West Bank.
1) Security.
2) Religious/Nationalist.

The security reasons are obvious. Look what happened when Israel ceded Gaza.
The religious/nationalist reasons are pretty obvious too. Religious/Nationalist Israeli's wish to establish Israel's ancient borders. From what I understand, most Israeli's don't want the West Bank anymore.
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By Nets
#13179503
The Golan Heights was annexed in 1981.
By Stipe
#13179526
Yes it was, by the passage of the Golan Heights Law of 1981. The annexation is not generally recognized internationally, but according to Israeli law the Golan Heights, like East Jerusalem, are a part of the State of Israel (unlike the West Bank and Gaza)
By Decky
#13179531
One state Israel driven into the sea. Or less romantically put, sent back to the US, Russia or whatever the hell they came from.
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By Captain Sam
#13179548
Yes it was, by the passage of the Golan Heights Law of 1981. The annexation is not generally recognized internationally, but according to Israeli law the Golan Heights, like East Jerusalem, are a part of the State of Israel (unlike the West Bank and Gaza)

It was de facto annexation. It placed Israel's government and laws over the region.
It still isn't a formally annexed region, unlike East Jerusalem.
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By Captain Sam
#13179550
One state Israel driven into the sea. Or less romantically put, sent back to the US, Russia or whatever the hell they came from.

They originally came from the Kingdom of Israel.

Edit: Double post, my bad.
By Stipe
#13179560
It placed Israel's government and laws over the region.


That's what annexation is: the extension of a polity's legal authority over a territory. They passed a law to do that which makes it quite de jure. The only thing is that they avoided the word in the law, but if I decided I would refused to call an elephant anything but a "tusked, long-snouted proboscidean that lives today in Africa and India", it would still be an elephant at the end of the day.
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By Abood
#13179592
Umm, where's the option of the one-state solution with a united and federal Israel and Palestine?
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By Captain Sam
#13179602
Umm, where's the option of the one-state solution with a united and federal Israel and Palestine?

It's called Other.
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