[The Immortal Goon]

I wasn't aware that Americans were required to be Anglophobic.

Monroe Doctrine, bitches. But mostly, we're Americans - not Europeans.

But aside from poking a stick at the conflict, I honestly don't know enough about it to go in to a detailed analysis or anything.

[Dave]

Monroe Doctrine, bitches.

The Monroe Doctrine is not a law--it is a policy suggestion. As you know very well it was established at a time when the United States was menaced by European powers and had defensive intent. As that is no longer the case I see no reason to stick to it. If European powers (or anyone else) started interfering with our interests in the backyard, then of course we would need to intervene.

But mostly, we're Americans - not Europeans.

We are diaspora Europeans with an unique national identity, but I'm not sure at any rate why this would require Anglophobia.

[Tailz]

Let the people of Islands decide for themselves, give them autonomy (independence) from England and Argentina.

If Argentina tried to take the Islands by force (again), then yes military force should be bright to bear to help the Islanders and repell the invaders.

What strategic importance do the Malvinas have anyway? Why does Britain want them so badly?

Why does Argentina want them so badly?

The islands have become a symbol of nationalist pride and little else for Argentina. The issue of the islands is only waved about as a Weapon of Mass Distraction to distract Argentina's population with their own nationalism, from the otherwise more important issues Argentina faces.

[Dr House]

Why does Argentina want them so badly?

I don't know... Yet I somehow don't care. They should have them anyway.

[Dave]

Issues of identity and pride transcend "more important issues", even if they are manipulated to distract from practical matters. To Argentina, the Falklands are Argentina. This is all that matters, and to act as if it is unimportant is to belittle a whole people, perhaps even an entire civilization given where Latin America's sympathies lie.

[Tailz]

I don't know... Yet I somehow don't care. They should have them anyway.

So what the people - who actualy live on the islands - want, is of no concern?

[Dr House]

Not to me, though doubtlessly it is to them.

[Tailz]

Not to me, though doubtlessly it is to them.

Then why should they submit to your desire since you care little for their desires?

[Potemkin]

Then why should they submit to your desire since you care little for their desires?

Those who are stronger will impose their will on those who are weaker. Which is, of course, what happened in reality.

[Tailz]

Those who are stronger will impose their will on those who are weaker. Which is, of course, what happened in reality.

Well obviously - but just because someone or some thing is strong enough to force its will upon others, does not mean it is the right or wrong thing to do.

The people who live on the Falkland Islands, don't want to join Argentina. And all that drives the desire for the Islands in Argentina, is nationalist pride and little else.

[Dave]

God damn it Tailz

[Potemkin]

How does it feel to agree with a Commie, Dave?

[Dave]

How does it feel to agree with a reactionary?

[Potemkin]

We should join forces to crush the disease of liberalism once and for all. We can always turn on each other later to settle matters between us. Hey, it worked for Adolf and Joe, didn't it?

[Dave]

Risk it is!

[Potemkin]

Vyacheslav Molotov is on his way to Berlin even as we speak....

[Tailz]

An alliance between Dave and Potemkin, wtf am I? Poland?

[Potemkin]

Heh heh heh. *orders the tanks divisions to advance*

[Thunderhawk]

An alliance between Dave and Potemkin, wtf am I? Poland?

Are you equally opposed to Dave and Potemkin? If Dave is the primary problem, Britain would be a better comparison.. though an ironic one considering this thread.

[Tailz]

Are you equally opposed to Dave and Potemkin? If Dave is the primary problem, Britain would be a better comparison.. though an ironic one considering this thread.

Hum... not really, I can understand the arguments of both Dave and Potemkin, and I agree witht hem both to a certain extent. But I also see a different perspective - especialy since I would like to see the disillusion of political state constructs - a world without nationalist political borders. So I think, what do the people of the Falkland Islands what? And obviously like all peoples, they want to control their own local enviroment, not be dictated too by a bunch of politicians masterbating their nationalist pride for English or Argentine power.

Then again, I just enjoy tweeking Dave's nose.