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What is your ideology and what are your drug use habits?

I am a communist or socialist and I use or have used recreational drugs heavily
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I am a communist or socialist and I use or have used recreational drugs lightly
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I am a communist or socialist and I abstain or very rarely use recreational drugs
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I am something else and I use or have used recreational drugs heavily
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I am something else and I use or have used recreational drugs lightly
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I am something else and I abstain or very rarely use recreational drugs
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Other
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Sivad wrote:Well there you go, "SolarCross" is definitely not a fascist, he just really admires violently repressive corporatist military dictators.


I can't speak for @SolarCross, views specifically (I am not entirely nailed-down as to what they are anyway), but the Pinochet stuff is pretty funny if you understand the context.

Among AnCaps especially, Pinochet's dropping communists out of helicopters into the ocean has become a sort of calling-card in the movement. This is because Hans-Herman Hoppe wrote that in order to accomplish a stateless society, "physical removal (so-to-speak)" of communists (those supporting an oppressive state) would be entirely justified and not inconsistent with the NAP.

Some 4chan type Ancaps, knowing their history, took "physical removal" and saw the pinochet "helicopter ride" as a funny and meme-worthy expression of their view of justified violence against commies as consistent with Anarcho-Capitalism, etc.

Here are some samples:

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Also notice Pepe's pinochet hat here:

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I have this following one framed at home: :lol:

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Notice again, the Pinochet outfit on Hoppe.

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I can't confirm yet if Hoppe actually said this, I don't recall it and it is clearly a play on the famous quote by Diderot:

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This is absolutely true though.
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SolarCross wrote:Is there anyone who isn't a fascist? You are really getting your money's worth out of that word aren't you?


Most people who aren't on the extreme right just take you for a crank wingnut, and that's probably all you really are. I doubt you've worked out a coherent political ideology in any real detail. I'm not saying you're a classical fascist, you're just the type that gets off on power and domination and fascist is an apt catch-all for that sort of political mentality.
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Sivad wrote:I'm not saying you're a classical fascist, you're just the type that gets off on power and domination and fascist is an apt catch-all for that sort of political mentality.


OOOOO. Me Next! Me Next! Diagnose me next!
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Sivad wrote:Most people who aren't on the extreme right just take you for a crank wingnut, and that's probably all you really are. I doubt you've worked out a coherent political ideology in any real detail. I'm not saying you're a classical fascist, you're just the type that gets off on power and domination and fascist is an apt catch-all for that sort of political mentality.

This is so pathetically wrong. Your whole life is just one long hallucination isn't it? Like a bad trip that never ends.
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Rugoz wrote:Deserves to be posted because the thought makes me cry tears of joy.


How avant-garde of you to oppose religion and monarchy :lol:

state-established churches and absolutist kings are SUCH a pressing matter, whatever shall we do?
#14928489
Yes, the status of the Church of England is definitely the most pressing matter in Britain now that we've got Napoleon out the way and the recent unpleasantness with the Americans over the Oregon territory has been brought to a satisfactory conclusion.
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Decky wrote:You wouldn't understand you are a worshiper of Satan like all Protestants.


Haven't the papists advocated for state recognition of the Church (essentially establishment)? :eh:

Otherwise, what was the fuss with the assent of Elizabeth I ?

Besides, in Diderot's context, he is advocating for killing papist priests, not Anglican priests. :lol:
#14928501
But papists have historically advocated for the state-recognition of the Roman church. Which is my point.

Diderot is being anti-catholic (I agree), but specifically anti-papist (in reference to French catholic priests).

So in his mind, disestablishment is specifically anti-Rome.

Sure, opposing anglicans purely because your a Romanist is perfectly valid, as a true catholic I hold to the establishment of the true religion everywhere; however, Diderot is definitely not championing protestantism or anything of the sort.

Rather, he is advocating a sentiment against all institutional religion and against all monarchs.

These aren't pressing matters, and the church of England today is an inept social-justice experiment gone rogue. It has no real power, no real doctrine, and pathetic attendance numbers.

I don't see any reasonable criteria why it should be regarded as a pressing concern.

Like I said, Diderot is not only wrong, he is not relevant.
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Decky wrote:Or it put it more succinctly they are Protestants.


:roll:

That is neither rational nor fair. That is like Calling Pope Francis a Roman Catholic (which is a dubious claim even among Roman Catholics).

I for one attend a traditionalist Lutheran church, our liturgy is the old catholic liturgy as followed since the middle ages, our feast days are the same, are sacraments are historic, and our origination comes from bishops who shared in apostolic succession.

I am a true catholic, I deny the innovations of either papists or leftists.

Unlike most protestant or papists, I still hold to evils of contraception, which is almost a litmus test in my opinion as to whom are the real catholics (besides true beliefs and confession of the church's councils).

I doubt even you are Catholic enough for me, in spite of your rhetoric.
#14928508
:lol: You ain't no Catholic, those who turn their backs on Rome turn their backs on God. Martin Luthor burns in hell with Mohammed and all the other false prophets. Christ made the first Pope St Peter the rock on which we would build his church (he said church singular not plural, like with Highlander there can only be one).

Protestants just want to pick and choose from the bible, inventing their own personal faith that conveniently allows them to act in whatever way they like. Do you even know how Anglicanism started? Henry VIII started it so he could divorce multiple times (very Christian :roll: ) and so he could destroy the ancient monasteries of England and steal their wealth and land to use for himself. Protestantism is the religion of greed, selfishness and worship of the individual.

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