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Patrickov wrote:Where is the "Others" option? I found none of them suiting what I think.
Wulfschilde wrote:Sorry. Aside from yes, no and conditional, what other options are you imagining?
Patrickov wrote:If an adjustment from such a position poses danger then they have no choice but to continue, but care has to be taken and there should be protocol based on due research and experiment (not on suspects of course).
Wulfschilde wrote:I think the answer should be yes. I trust there is a good reason that this kind of thing is allowed. I don't think that yes with conditions will work because people could fake being non-responsive and it would invite all sorts of complications and lawsuits.
Godstud wrote:FFS, it's be better if the police officer just sat on the guy's ass. It'd pin him, and put him in no danger of suffocating, or preventing his breathing.
Godstud wrote:The poster who voted YES, is clueless, and one of the reasons why this is a problem.
blackjack21 wrote:That's a good solution if the subject is cuffed. If not, subjects often try to get the officer's gun.It takes only a seconds to cuff someone, once they are prone. I've undergone that training, and it's not rocket science.
blackjack21 wrote:What if the arrestee is a felony shooter, and back up hasn't arrived and they are struggling?Police do not respond to felony shootings alone, for one thing. If he's cuffed, it doesn't matter what he did. Pinning a cuffed person to the ground is remarkably easy. You can put your knee on the cuffs. They have a taser and pepper spray. The options are many.
Godstud wrote:It takes only a seconds to cuff someone, once they are prone. I've undergone that training, and it's not rocket science.
Godstud wrote:Police do not respond to felony shootings alone, for one thing.
Godstud wrote:You offer excuses, not argument.
Godstud wrote:There were 4 police officers present when George Floyd was murdered.
George Floyd was not a felony shooter. He was unarmed, cuffed, and prone.
blackjack21 wrote:My buddy doesn't get greeted with "Hello officer." He gets greeted with "Yo muthafucka, you in the wrong neighborhood!" Some of the people who live in San Francisco's Bay View district are not sticklers for etiquette to put it mildly.So? That's not relevant to the discussion. It's not the job of the police to be "loved". If he wants that, he should find a different job. Ice cream vendors are loved.
Godstud wrote:It's not the job of the police to be "loved". If he wants that, he should find a different job. Ice cream vendors are loved.
Godstud wrote:Being a police officer is not even in the top 10 most dangerous jobs. I did roofing, when I was younger. It's more dangerous.
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