- 11 Jun 2020 22:41
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I have already acknowledged the existence of systemic racism against POC, that is not in question.
The reason I cannot provide you information proving that whites also suffer from theoretical or real systemic racism is because there isn't any. The absence of data does not mean it doesn't exist, however. Social science is dead set upon advancing one particular narrative, that of white privilege. This is the established orthodoxy and world view around which most academics think.
How, for example, are we going to conduct such a test? All of the tests conducted in Western societies obviously take place in conditions where whites hold institutional power.
If you want to make the absurd claim that whites hold institutional power in Korea and Japan then perhaps we could conduct empirical studies in those countries to determine whether or not it is true.
You make broad brush generalisations without evidence that substantiates them.
The treatment of whites in Japan is no doubt better than it is of blacks but this does not mean that whites will have an institutional advantage over Japanese in Japan. I now await your response where you will claim that Japanese prefer whites over Japanese.
That the volume and incidence of discrimination against blacks is higher than it is against whites does not preclude the possibility that it exists against whites, if somewhat less common.
You have still not explained how, through some feat of intellectual gymnastics, you have arrived at the conclusion that a white citizen in a POC majority country like South Africa or Pakistan could hold institutional power over local non POC citizens when the latter constitute a majority and control police, media, courts, armed forces etc.
Atlantis wrote:@Political Interest, you still haven't provided any evidence for whites being subjected to systemic racism. If you think that the individual cases of racism against whites you have mentioned represent systemic racism, then you don't know what racism is all about. You haven't put yourself in the position of a colored person who suffers some sort of discrimination every day of his/her life.
I have already acknowledged the existence of systemic racism against POC, that is not in question.
The reason I cannot provide you information proving that whites also suffer from theoretical or real systemic racism is because there isn't any. The absence of data does not mean it doesn't exist, however. Social science is dead set upon advancing one particular narrative, that of white privilege. This is the established orthodoxy and world view around which most academics think.
How, for example, are we going to conduct such a test? All of the tests conducted in Western societies obviously take place in conditions where whites hold institutional power.
If you want to make the absurd claim that whites hold institutional power in Korea and Japan then perhaps we could conduct empirical studies in those countries to determine whether or not it is true.
Atlantis wrote:Whites are privileged not only in white societies but almost everywhere they go. With a British passport you can go without visa to almost any country you want to go. You can even settle in numerous countries without too much hassle. Most black Africans can only emigrate illegally by risking their lives. I have shown you how black and white Americans are treated differently in third countries like Japan. The color of your skin determines whether you are welcome or not. The same applies to many countries where whites don't have "institutional power" as you put it.
That is white privilege.
You make broad brush generalisations without evidence that substantiates them.
The treatment of whites in Japan is no doubt better than it is of blacks but this does not mean that whites will have an institutional advantage over Japanese in Japan. I now await your response where you will claim that Japanese prefer whites over Japanese.
That the volume and incidence of discrimination against blacks is higher than it is against whites does not preclude the possibility that it exists against whites, if somewhat less common.
You have still not explained how, through some feat of intellectual gymnastics, you have arrived at the conclusion that a white citizen in a POC majority country like South Africa or Pakistan could hold institutional power over local non POC citizens when the latter constitute a majority and control police, media, courts, armed forces etc.