[Rancid]

meme flu

I like this.

[Drlee]

@Igor Antunov

The only difference between me and you is that you're a junkie.

No. The only difference between you and I is that you are just not very smart it would appear.

[Igor Antunov]

Careful now...wouldn't want my blade to slip across your neck....

[JohnRawls]

Careful now...wouldn't want my blade to slip across your neck....

I am not sure what you are on about nowadays.

Simple explanation why vaccines work if you understand statistics.(And lockdowns also by the way but nobody wants them) Here is the latest wave in Europe 14 day average results. I am pretty sure you can read the patterns and stats.

[Igor Antunov]

I am not sure what you are on about nowadays.

Simple explanation why vaccines work if you understand statistics.(And lockdowns also by the way but nobody wants them) Here is the latest wave in Europe 14 day average results. I am pretty sure you can read the patterns and stats.

Now adjust for age and co-morbidities. I shouldn't have to get mystery juiced because fat fucks won't hit the treadmill and old fucks are old. Also the death rate all up per million is laughable. This is literally significantly less dangerous than driving cars and being a pedestrian among them. Vaccine for elimination of cars when?

Anyway, this seems much more effective than your experimental seasonal treatment:

[JohnRawls]

Now adjust for age and co-morbidities. I shouldn't have to get mystery juiced because fat fucks won't hit the treadmill and old fucks are old. Also the death rate all up per million is laughable. This is literally significantly less dangerous than driving cars and being a pedestrian among them. Vaccine for elimination of cars when?

Covid has become the main source of deaths by the way overtaking heart disease, cancers and so on in most places that report the information correctly. Oh well, I tried. I hope Australia won't have a massive outbreak/delayed outbreak compared to the rest of the world. The places that report it properly put it around 10% of all deaths per year not including the extra deaths from the strained healthcare system and overcrowded hospitals when it happens.

[Igor Antunov]

Covid has become the main source of deaths by the way overtaking heart disease, cancers and so on in most places that report the information correctly. Oh well, I tried. I hope Australia won't have a massive outbreak/delayed outbreak compared to the rest of the world. The places that report it properly put it around 10% of all deaths per year not including the extra deaths from the strained healthcare system and overcrowded hospitals when it happens.

Covid is an old people's disease. Since we know vaccination doesn't prevent infection and spread, but supposedly prevents death from covid, only old people should get vaccinated.



Also you haven't addressed as to why Ivermectin isn't a first line treatment, vaccinated or not. It is supremely effective at preventing serious illness in covid positive persons.

Also the vast majority of Australian deaths from Covid have been 1) vaccinated, 2) 70+ years old and finally 3) statistically insignificant among those under 70- years of age. Almost all those who died of covid under that age have been seriously ill in some way with multiple serious issues.

[AFAIK]

Can't kill someone with your car if you can't leave the house.

[Godstud]

@Igor Antunov Another fool trying to compare car accidents with a contagious disease? <sigh>

Let's play your game by looking at numbers:

Cars
Over 100 million people use a car in the USA, daily. @38,000 people die every year from car accidents.
Deaths per 100,000 = 12.4

Covid-19
48 million people in the USA have had Covid and over 770,000 people have died.
Deaths per 100,000 =617.9

Are you seriously that bad at math?

Also you haven't addressed as to why Ivermectin isn't a first line treatment, vaccinated or not. It is supremely effective at preventing serious illness in covid positive persons.

Because it isn't "supremely effective". Every MD would be prescribing it, if this were the case. It is not.

That is why your question is foolish. The claim that it's the miracle cure/treatment, is abjectly false.

[AFAIK]

I actually agree with Igor's whataboutism and wish our cities were always built around public transport, walking and cycling like in the Netherlands.

[Godstud]

Well, @AFAIK, you might as well wish for cats with wings as for us to turn back time and reorganize the cities.

That said, his "Whataboutism" is infantile... at best. Cars are a tool which is used by hundreds of millions of people, daily, and cannot be compared to a disease that you AVOID getting... A disease for which there is a vaccine, but some morons don't want to take it because they are selfish, abject cowards, and fools.

[XogGyux]

Also you haven't addressed as to why Ivermectin isn't a first line treatment, vaccinated or not.

Oh, I can do that for you.
Ivermectin is not first-line treatment (or treatment at all) for COVID, for the exact same reason that tic tacs are not a treatment for lung adenocarcinoma. If it has not been shown to work, it cannot really be a treatment.

[Igor Antunov]

Oh, I can do that for you.
Ivermectin is not first-line treatment (or treatment at all) for COVID, for the exact same reason that tic tacs are not a treatment for lung adenocarcinoma. If it has not been shown to work, it cannot really be a treatment.

This is patently false though. See Japan. See all of Africa. Large scale samples say supremely effective.

[Godstud]

This is patently false though. See Japan. See all of Africa. Large scale samples say supremely effective.

Yes, what you're saying IS false. You're buying into some shit a Youtuber put out for fools and idiots.

Re: Japan
The claim: Japan stopped its vaccine rollout and switched to ivermectin
Fact check: Ivermectin is not a proven treatment for COVID-19

The Instagram user did not return a request for comment.

Japan didn't stop vaccine rollout
Japan administered 574,739 COVID-19 vaccine doses on Oct. 27, the day the article was published, according to a vaccine tracker from Our World in Data. As of Oct. 31, Japan has distributed more than 189 million doses since launching its vaccination drive in February
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 232580001/

Ivermectin not proven to treat COVID-19
Ivermectin has been promoted as a COVID-19 cure throughout the pandemic.Scientists are still studying whether the drug could be used as a treatment, but so far there's little data to suggest it's effective against COVID-19.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/fac ... 566216001/

Japan Continues to Use Vaccines, Not Ivermectin, to Fight COVID-19

Ivermectin Never Approved for Treatment
Contrary to Turner’s claim, ivermectin is not on a list of pharmaceuticals approved to treat COVID-19 in Japan.
“Ivermectin is not endorsed by the Japanese government,” Kosuke Yasukawa, who is a physician at Medstar Washington Hospital Center and an assistant professor of clinical medicine at Georgetown University School of Medicine, told us in an email.

Haruo Ozaki, chairman of the Tokyo Medical Association, had recommended the use of ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19 patients at Feb. 9 press conference, “which was criticized by many physicians in the U.S.,” said Yasukawa, an infectious disease specialist who received his medical degree at Keio University in Tokyo.

Ozaki is not a government official, and the Tokyo Medical Association is a professional organization that doesn’t make policy.

“I believe basic precautions like masks [and] social distancing, along with vaccination, helped reduce infections in Japan,” Yasukawa said.

The World Health Organization said in March that evidence about the use of ivermectin to treat COVID-19 was “inconclusive.”

The WHO recommends that ivermectin “continue to be used for its intended purposes,” the organization said in an email to FactCheck.org. “Until more data is available, WHO recommends that the drug only be used to treat COVID-19 within clinical trials,” regardless of disease severity.

Similarly, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration says “currently available data do not show ivermectin is effective against COVID-19.” (For more on ivermectin, see SciCheck’s article “Ongoing Clinical Trials Will Decide Whether (or Not) Ivermectin Is Safe, Effective for COVID-19.”)

Officials from the Japanese Embassy in Washington didn’t return emails seeking comment.
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/scich ... -covid-19/

So you're just a gullible fool, @Igor Antunov who continues to pander to anti-vax nonsense because you're simply not smart enough to understand...

ANYTHING.

[XogGyux]

This is patently false though. See Japan. See all of Africa. Large scale samples say supremely effective.

Link the peer-reviewed randomized controlled trials, then we will talk.

Your only skill is linking memes it seems.

[Igor Antunov]

Link me the long term effects of mRNA based treatments and we'll talk. Oh no you can't. The onus is on you to prove your vaccine is not a meme. As for ivermectin it works. It has worked for decades as an antiviral treament. It is a known quantity.

And oh dear Godstud has resorted to mainstream media fact checking. That just shows desperation.

Ivermectin not proven to treat COVID-19 - studies ongoing

In their loose context, neither are the 'vaccines'.

We are on the same side in the end, but you guys are going with the establishment flow. So tiresome. Here is something to stimulate the cognitive juices. All this same old is unhealthy start grasping new ideas.

[XogGyux]

Link me the long term effects of mRNA based treatments and we'll talk. Oh no you can't. The onus is on you to prove your vaccine is not a meme. As for ivermectin it works. It has worked for decades as an antiviral treament. It is a known quantity.

And oh dear Godstud has resorted to mainstream media fact checking. That just shows desperation.



In their loose context, neither are the 'vaccines'.

We are on the same side in the end, but you guys are going with the establishment flow. So tiresome. Here is something to stimulate the cognitive juices. All this same old is unhealthy start grasping new ideas.

Certified fresh nonsense.

[Godstud]

The onus is on you to prove your vaccine is not a meme. As for ivermectin it works. It has worked for decades as an antiviral treament. It is a known quantity.

The proof is readily evident and has been presented to you dozens of times. You're a tiresome fool. You make dumb assertions and NEVER support it.

My sources linked the valid studies and sources. Nothing you presented thus far has been valid and more than stupidity from Youtube or Twitter.

Stick with memes, silly cartoons and your dumb pictures, as you aren't capable of any sort of intellectual conversation.

[Igor Antunov]

You're really playing with crayons Godstud. I hate doing the old muh IQ thing but I do have a Science Degree and my major was Biology. Granted it's 15 years old and doesn't qualify me to speak about molecular biology specifically but it does qualify me to understand the absurdity of your religious fervor regarding these half-assed vaccines.

Here is one potential and completely legitimate example as to why the vaccine is waning in all age groups (which shouldn't be the case given the mechanism of action). See the Israeli article. Then read my reason as to why this is likely happening.



The reason why vaccines such as this lose overall effectiveness contrary to their mechanism of action (they should be bestowing multi-decade immunity) is because of molecular mimicry in the spike protein. An antigen on the spike protein looks like a normal human protein so the antibodies in immune cells that get activated by the virus eat your good cells -this is auto immune disorder. Normally we have systems that kill these self recognizing immune cells but the sheer amount of antigen in the vaccine and the number of immune cells activated mean some get through - consequently this is also what could be causing heart problems and providing limited resistance to catching and spreading the virus - it all lines up. Eventually these immune cells get cleaned out when the check system can catch up, ergo you lose any resistance and on top of that can't form memory b cells, a condition which lasts for the rest of your doomed life.

And it's a very dangerous link to the ramblings in that article. If this is indeed the case, I envision decades of lawsuits. Is it any wonder companies like Pfizer have lobbied and succeeded in keeping metadata results regarding their own vaccines out of public reach for over 75 years? This should be a major warning signal. And yet I get more 'factchecks'.

You may not give a shit what happens to kids or anyone else 20 years from now given your age, but I do. I'll have to live with the apocalypse, but more so my anger. Few things make me angry, very few in fact. But dooming children and perfectly healthy young adults? That's one.

Now granted there may be another more benign reason as to why this is happening. If that's the cause then hooray-grug safe. But the mere possibility of the former utterly crushes any 'benefit' these vaccines are having for the age groups I keep alluding to. Which is why I advocate and will continue to advocate (barring some major revelation) that only those in at risk age groups and with tandem illnesses that make them at risk from succumbing to Covid should be getting vaccinated.

[Godstud]

Another meme from the King of Fools, @Igor Antunov.



That's not even a real article. Someone just wrote in what they wanted you to believe. Fuck, you're gullible!


All your lies about the Covid-19 vaccines are still lies, no matter how much you try to dress them up in technical terms you don't fucking understand.