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Agent Steel wrote:The Democrat party isn't considered leftist? Ok. That's news to me.


The Democrat party is considered to be a center right capitalist party by Marxists.

And again, they tend to shoot and exile actual Marxists.

Now, how do you define “leftist”?
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Agent Steel wrote:What was his point? All he did was get really defensive and resort to personal attacks. He should have been yellow carded but I guess he must suck up to the moderators so they go easy on him or something.


His point was your narrative. You asked why leftist ideology doesn't attract masculine men and then agree that Leftist Soviet work ethic was masculine meaning it does. So you contradicted yourself.

Also within your original OP you only asked for an example of a masculine Leftist. If you agree Soviet leaders are masculine Leftists then you have your example ready made making this thread obsolete.
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Beren wrote:His point I guess is that Schwarzenegger, like many athletes, was overstretched and a fake symbol of fitness and healthy lifestyle.
He was fit. he was healthy. You can't really get that big and strong without being that.

That Schwarzenegger is still alive and fit(at 72), demonstrates that very well, too. Quatzelok was just flinging poo.
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Godstud wrote:He was fit. he was healthy. You can't really get that big and strong without being that.

That Schwarzenegger is still alive and fit(at 72), demonstrates that very well, too. Quatzelok was just flinging poo.

Maybe he's still alive and fit despite what he did while lesser human beings couldn't have survived it.
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Beren wrote:Maybe he's still alive and fit despite what he did while lesser human beings couldn't have survived it.

Thank you, Beren, for finally making my point clear: that Arnie's grotesque body-building figure is only a sign of "masculinity" if your worldview has been seriously altered by the mass media from whence his celebrity was tapped.

It's a sick, Hollywood "masculinity," and this sickness is paralleled in the often fake and Hollywoodish "left" that is still walking the halls of our national politics. Bernie Sanders and Liz Warren aren't "left," they're "super-left" (but it's all fake, like Schwartzenegger's sperm count).
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Agent Steel wrote:The Democrat party isn't considered leftist? Ok. That's news to me.

If the USA Democrats are "left," that means that cutting social programs to give all the tax dollars to crooked banksters is left. (Obama)

That means that bombing Third World nations to steal their resources is left. (too many to mention)

That means that imprisoning as many black men as possible is left. (too many to mention)

If these things that the Democrats (and Repubs) have championed are "left," then I think we all need to look in other directions (up?) to describe in what direction social equality and ecological sustainability are to be found.
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