[jimjam]

The US certainly meddled like hell in basically every single nation in Latin America. To varying degrees of course, but it's undeniable the US significantly impacted the course of events in various Latin American nations.

It has taken on various forms. In some nations is through supporting regime change, in others it was in the name of restoring democracy (while making sure the restored government is favorable to the US). These are things all nations partake in.

The CIA was basically the enforcement division for interests of corporate America in South America. If a country had a government that endangered in any way local corporate interests …. the call would go out to Alan Dulles. Alan's M.O. was similar in most cases. Initially a pay off was offered to the local government officials. If the pay off was refused, Alan had a well oiled system in place to then execute plan B,C,D, etc. These plans covered the usual range from simple assassinations to CIA financed "revolutions".

Their repeated attempts to reclaim Cuba for Corporate America and the Mafia came close to ending civilization as we know it during the Cuban missile crisis. During the blockade of Cuba on October 27, 1962, the US navy dropped depth charges near a Russian submarine armed with nuclear torpedoes. The captain of the sub decided to fire off a nuke. Fortunately 3 officers needed to agree to fire. Two did and one man, Vasily Arkhipov, withheld his approval which averted a nuclear exchange which could have killed hundreds of millions of humans. Here is Vasily's picture …… a true hero of the human race:




Last year in Cuba^, an aging revolutionary (Hard to believe that Fidel lived to be 90) and an aging revolution...…….

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Hey Big Guy, jimjam has no caps. It's all lower case.

[BigSteve]

Hey Big Guy, jimjam has no caps. It's all lower case.

And, yet, you answered up...

[QatzelOk]

The CIA was basically the enforcement division for interests of corporate America in South America. If a country had a government that endangered in any way local corporate interests …. the call would go out to Alan Dulles.

And as well as being head of the CIA, Allen Dulles was also the biggest shareholder in the United Fruit Company.

This everyday conflict-of-interest lead to the MK Ultra project, a CIA project in which unsuspecting patients (and soldiers) were given mind-erasing drug cocktails. The idea was to invent mind-erasing strategies in order to erase the minds of Latin Americans toiling under the well-armed hand of American fruit corporations operating in South and Central America.


This poor little girl was admitted into a "clinic" in Montreal that was part of MK Ultra. Her "therapy" involved massive drug intakes, electro-shock and sensory deprivation, leading her to revert to the blank mind of an infant. She later went on to have a family, and one of her children wrote a blog post on the ordeal.

If you want to see what an amoral failure capitalism is, read the blog post.

My mother is dead. She lived a miserable debilitating life of being addicted to anti depressants and tranqs. She couldn't talk about her ordeal. She could cry though.

All for a good cause though: erasing the minds of millions of farm workers working for American tyrants.

Interesting to contrast Cuba's Mas Medicos program with the USA's MK Ultra program.
Night and Day, capitalism and socialism.

[Rancid]

Question, what is the CIA up to these days with Cuba?

[Pants-of-dog]

I think those weird sonic microwave attacks are CIA or DOD experiments, and they are doing the tests in China and Cuba in order to redirect suspicion.

[Patrickov]

I think those weird sonic microwave attacks are CIA or DOD experiments, and they are doing the tests in China and Cuba in order to redirect suspicion.

You seem fond of such conspiracy theories a lot... what leads you to this conclusion, aside of your hatred against Western politicians and the masters behind them?

[Pants-of-dog]

You seem fond of such conspiracy theories a lot... what leads you to this conclusion, aside of your hatred against Western politicians and the masters behind them?

2 facts:

1. The US is the country that spends the most on defense, including research and development. Therefore they are the ones most likely to afford new technologies.

2. It would make no sense for the Cubans to develop this technology in secret and then show their hand by testing it against US citizens in Cuba. If the Cuban government was as oppressive as claimed, they would test it on Cubans in order to maintain secrecy.

[Patrickov]

2 facts:

1. The US is the country that spends the most on defense, including research and development. Therefore they are the ones most likely to afford new technologies.

2. It would make no sense for the Cubans to develop this technology in secret and then show their hand by testing it against US citizens in Cuba. If the Cuban government was as oppressive as claimed, they would test it on Cubans in order to maintain secrecy.

The problem is there's probably no fact in your statement at all.

Rancid only asked what are the US up to, and nothing indicated that the technology you mentioned is in use in Cuba (I heard that in China, although it really doesn't need any technology -- any middle-aged person without public decency would be capable to do that). You seem making this all up.

[Pants-of-dog]

What am I making up?

[skinster]

Last year in Cuba^, an aging revolutionary (Hard to believe that Fidel lived to be 90)

Speaking of aging revolutionaries, happy birthday to Raul...say happy birthday now Sivad, don't be a sourpuss.

I think those weird sonic microwave attacks are CIA or DOD experiments

Are you talking about this story?

[skinster]

America is such a sad country.

[QatzelOk]

America is such a sad country.

It's a sad tyranny, populated by alienated mercenaries whose only virtues are their brainlessness and media addiction. These two virtues make the American people very useful to the murderous tyrants who push everyone's buttons.

It's been killing and stealing since its creation (by violence and genocides). There has never been a moment of pause or remorse. Just more killing.

It has never sought peace, only more mercs, more resources, and more destruction of all other nations. Since its creation. And it can do no good for its own people. It can only destroy other nations, driving them into permanent poverty, while its ignorant citizens smile and count their tiny percentage of the loot stolen in the process of destroying human capital.

One question that the majority of the world's population should be asking is: Can the earth survive any more superpowers? And the answer is probably no.

[skinster]

It's been killing and stealing since its creation (by violence and genocides). There has never been a moment of pause or remorse. Just more killing.

And people get mad at me for referring to it as 'that genocidal regime', but it's a more apt name than "America".

Motion to rename it for purposes of accurate description.

[BigSteve]

It's a sad tyranny, populated by alienated mercenaries whose only virtues are their brainlessness and media addiction. These two virtues make the American people very useful to the murderous tyrants who push everyone's buttons.

It's been killing and stealing since its creation (by violence and genocides). There has never been a moment of pause or remorse. Just more killing.

It has never sought peace, only more mercs, more resources, and more destruction of all other nations. Since its creation. And it can do no good for its own people. It can only destroy other nations, driving them into permanent poverty, while its ignorant citizens smile and count their tiny percentage of the loot stolen in the process of destroying human capital.

One question that the majority of the world's population should be asking is: Can the earth survive any more superpowers? And the answer is probably no.

Aw, poor little snowflakes.

We're the greatest country on the fucking planet. We're the most generous and the most forgiving. We're also the most powerful and the most aggressive when we need to be. We treat our allies well and our enemies with contempt.

The whining of the world pleases us to no end. Please, continue...

[skinster]

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[jimjam]

Boy was I lucky …… got to visit Cuba twice last year. I see where Obese Donald and Gringo sore losers have decided to tell American citizens where they can and cannot go in the world and they have recently decided that I am not allowed to return to Cuba …… for now. Their time will pass and Americans will be able to reclaim their freedom.

[QatzelOk]

We're the greatest country on the fucking planet.

This is obviously not true. Notice all those red hats that want to "get that greatness back?" That means the greatness is long gone. Learn English syntax.

We're the most generous and the most forgiving.

In the world of school shooters, no one is more generous with gun distribution, or is more forgiving of the poor school-shooters. But when it comes to helping the poor and the marginalized, no one is stingier than the USA. All the school children get is "thoughts and prayers."

We're also the most powerful and the most aggressive when we need to be. We treat our allies well and our enemies with contempt.

The same can be said of any organized crime gang.

[BigSteve]

This is obviously not true.

Sure it is.

If we weren't, we wouldn't have so many people trying to come here...

[Patrickov]

Sure it is.

If we weren't, we wouldn't have so many people trying to come here...

I thought Switzerland is better, especially for the richest, just that it's too small that people have to look for lesser choices.

[QatzelOk]

Sure it is.

If we weren't, we wouldn't have so many people trying to come here...

The USA is just north of a lot of Latin American countries that the USA destroys with some regularity. (look it up)
This is why so many victims want to find refuge in the nation with all the stolen money.
All wealthy countries get more applications for immigration than they can possibly process. It's about possessing the world's (stolen) wealth. The victims who have been robbed would also like some of it (back).

Likwise, your simple, non-nuanced, cartoon-version of world politics would be very out-of-place in Cuba where, despite having one twentieth the resource-consumption per capita as the USA, it has better general education and health care.

The farmers, fishermen, workers, truck drivers, and bike repair people I spoke with in Cuba (on three recent trips there) had a well-informed and nuanced worldview. How can you be from such a rich country and still seem like education was totally out of reach for you?