[blackjack21]

Generally, I find political correctness to be un-American. No right thinking person should sign up to have thoughtless knee-jerk reactions to every stimuli thrown out there. It sort of defeats the point of being human.

Apparently, it is very offensive today for some people to realize that someone else dressed up in black face 30+ years ago. It is so offensive to them, that they think a person who has dressed in black face at any time in their life should not hold high office.

At any rate, the Democrats find themselves in a quandary of their own making in Virginia. Somehow, it was overlooked--probably because Republican campaign strategists are so incredibly fucking useless that they never bothered to do a deep background check on their opponent--that Governor Northam, a white man, had very likely dressed in blackface in a picture in his college year book, and apparently was known as "the coon" among his mates. Northam at first apologized for the picture, then denied that he was in the picture. However, he did acknowledge dressing in blackface while doing a Michael Jackson impersonation and moonwalking at a "talent show." This has so many people so upset, that they think Governor Northam should resign, which would make Lt. Governor Justin Fairfax the governor.

Justin Fairfax, a black man, succeeding Ralph Northam as governor would be seen as some sort of "social justice." However, Lt. Governor Fairfax stands accused of sexual assault by a woman who remembers the time, place and vivid details of the account--forced oral copulation. Following the Democrats' mantra during the Kavanaugh hearings, a female accuser is supposed to be believed. So some suggest that Lt. Governor Fairfax should step down too, while others are feigning ignorance of the matter or distancing themselves from the political positions they held on believing accusers just six months ago (Dianne Feinstein among them). If Ralph Northam and Justin Fairfax were to resign, Attorney General Mark Herring would succeed them both.

Mark Herring, a white man, succeeding Ralph Northam and Justin Fairfax could be seen as restoring some semblance of order to the current chaos in Virginia. However, there is a problem--and no, I am not making this up: Mark Herring has also dressed up in blackface in his young adult life. Hence, the likely outcome would be a member of the Republican-controlled legislature.

I never realized that dressing up in blackface was so popular in the South among white collegiates. Apparently it was. What I don't understand is why people purport to find it so offensive. I found Eddie Murphy's "whiteface" act on Saturday Night Live hysterically funny.

I guess we're supposed to find Tootsy and Mrs. Doubtfire offensive for non-trans people cross dressing and making other people laugh at other people's struggles with gender identity.

Is it me, or is political correctness a sign of functional insanity?

[Red_Army]

Literally every time some dem suit gets busted for being a piece of shit all the Republicans come out and say, "How will the libs who try to own us react when one of their own get accused!?" And every time everybody just says, "Fuck him," and the Republicans are surprised and go back to saying black face/rape is actually pretty cool. You went through both phases in one post, which is nice and succinct.

[Ter]

Al Jolson 1927

[colliric]

Al Jolson 1927

Greatest Jewish Comedy team ever....

[blackjack21]

And every time everybody just says, "Fuck him," and the Republicans are surprised and go back to saying black face/rape is actually pretty cool.

I see a pretty big difference between blackface, which is not a crime and could be construed to be insensitive or in poor taste depending on the context, and felony sexual assault, which is criminal and is pretty clearly always wrong when not consensual. Like Kavanaugh, I think Justin Fairfax should be presumed innocent. However, the details provided by his accuser are more definitive than those alleged by Blasey-Ford against Kavanaugh--although, like Blasey Ford, they are a bit late for the purposes of criminal or civil remedy. Additionally, since the accuser and accused are from the same political party and political persuasion, it doesn't appear to be a politically motivated stunt. Unlike many Democrats, I do think there should be a statute of limitations on that sort of thing. Historically, even black actors played black face roles. So I think people pretending to be upset about that is kind of odd.

Greatest Jewish Comedy team ever....

The Stooges were great.

Here's Ted Danson in blackface when he was dating Whoopi Goldberg.



Here's Sir Laurence Olivier.



And, of course, Rachel Dolezal.



Maybe Ralph Northam needs to claim that he's inter-racial and identifies as black, and that his actions were part of his negrophilia and not meant to hurt anyone.

[Red_Army]

Man this thread is awesome

[Rich]

I'm utterly disgusted by these bigots, how dare they criticise a man for Black facing, I guess these ignorant, hate filled bigots would attack a cis male for dressing in women's clothing or a cis woman for dressing like a man.

I was appalled by the way Elizabeth Warren, lorded her cis-Cherokee status over the rest of us. Every person should have the right to identify with the race of their choice. Everyone should have the freedom to experiment with trans-racialism.

[blackjack21]

Man this thread is awesome

What do you think the Democrats should do here? I thought they were a little hard on Al Franken, but I understood the political problem as one of a picture of him mock grabbing a gal's boobs, which would undoubtedly be used in political campaign ads if they didn't get rid of him. Northam admitted and then denied that he was one of the people in the "black guy with a KKK friend" picture. Then, he admitted to dressing up in blackface to do a Michael Jackson impersonation--in effect, admitting that he was the guy in black face in the first picture too (but has no memory of it), and spinning his behavior as negrophilia rather than racism for all practical purposes. I'm assuming that the rationale here is that the picture would not be used against Democrats in campaign ads, but I'm clearly speculating. The irony of Northam's admitted Michael Jackson performance is that following the Thriller album, Michael Jackson was rumored to have found a doctor to help him contract vitiligo (an apocryphal claim) or engage in skin bleaching, effectively turning himself white. Jackson went from this as a young man:


To this:


One can only speculate what sort of "identity" issues Jackson had. However, we haven't heard the media accuse Jackson of being offensive for "whiteface."

I'm utterly disgusted by these bigots, how dare they criticise a man for Black facing, I guess these ignorant, hate filled bigots would attack a cis male for dressing in women's clothing or a cis woman for dressing like a man.

Well, that's what I mean by political correctness devouring its own. Hollywood has long used cross-dressing as a comedy gag. Indeed, Trump's own lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, dressed in drag at one point in humor.

Yet, in the case of Northam, he clearly ran for governor attacking his opponent--and a completely baseless attack--as a racist for not singularly condemning only the neo-Nazi protesters in Charlottesville and refraining from condemning the violence initiating leftist Antifa crowds. So now we have kind of a rich irony where the now Governor of Virginia and his Attorney General have dressed in blackface, while the Lt. Governor is accused of felony sexual assault (well past the statue of limitations, once again).

So far, nobody here has purported to be deeply offended at what Northam did. Northam's actions were not criminal, however. Meanwhile, the Lt. Gov. is accused of a felony sexual assault by a member of his own party, and the people who tried to trash Kavanaugh's nomination in an obvious partisan hit are resting on their right to remain silent in the Lt. Governor's case.

It seems most of the #NeverTrump crowd here who could go on for days about Judge Moore or Brett Kavanaugh are utterly silent, too. Many of them--like Red_Army--purport to hate the Democratic party too, as they are communists (or so we're meant to believe). So where is the outrage? It kind of makes me wonder if there are a lot of paid trolls working for the Democratic party who just pretend to be upset by these issues.

I was a teen in the 1980s, and I never heard of anyone I knew of dressing in blackface, but I suppose it could have happened. I guess it's more of a thing in the South.

[Pants-of-dog]

Vitiligo.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitiligo

[Libertarian353]

Shut up, @blackjack21

All you want is racial violence, be careful what you wish for.

@colliric

You disgust me more than him, at least he's honest with his hatred.

[blackjack21]

Shut up, @blackjack21

All you want is racial violence, be careful what you wish for.

Your projection issues aside, what is your position on Ralph Northam? Should he resign as governor of Virginia?

[Libertarian353]

Your projection issues aside

The "No, you're the racist" doesn't fly here anymore.

what is your position on Ralph Northam? Should he resign as governor of Virginia?

Yes

[colliric]

Shut up, @blackjack21

All you want is racial violence, be careful what you wish for.

@colliric

You disgust me more than him, at least he's honest with his hatred.

It was a joke you dumbass.

I found it funny a Jewish user was posting a Jewish example of Blackface.... So why not post another, lol.

I don't support Blackface coming back idiot(but I also don't support people erasing the past either)....

In fact I was looking for their famous Jap-Face episodes but couldn't find a good enough picture.

[Red_Army]

I never supported him and think he should step down and let someone cooler take over. Also keep posting blackface pics to show how cool, normal, and not racist it is

[colliric]

I was making fun of @Ter choosing to post a Jewish example.... Can't believe I have to point it out. I thought that was fucken obvious!

[Red_Army]

Why would that be obvious or pertinent?

[Rancid]

Aaahh fuck,

[colliric]

Why would that be obvious or pertinent?

@Ter is defending something his group of people basically invented.... Out of just dominating Comedy at the time mainly(no sinister reason).

[Red_Army]

He was really just posting something without comment for plausible deniability, but I don't think the supposed Jewishness of blackface is the issue here.

[blackjack21]

The "No, you're the racist" doesn't fly here anymore.

You accused me of wanting a race war, even though I have never advocated a race war. Consequently, it is something slithering around deep in your imagination, which you routinely project on to others.

I never supported him and think he should step down and let someone cooler take over. Also keep posting blackface pics to show how cool, normal, and not racist it is

It's refreshing to see some consistency with you and Libertarian353 both saying that Northam should resign. I think the guy is a douchebag myself for playing the race card in the first place. I didn't say blackface had no racial issues. I said I find it surprising that people get so upset about something that happened a generation ago when they weren't upset about the event then.

For your edification, here are a few more for you:

Robert Downey Jr.


Judy Garland


Elizabeth Taylor


Sarah Silverman


Jimmy Fallon


Jimmy Kimmel


Shirley Temple
<<--Probably too young to have any intent.

Angelina Jolie


Fred Armisen


Joy Behar


Dan Akroyd


SNL


Billy Crystal

Tom Hanks

They must all be banished from the public square, right?