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Fascism predated Mussolini, the Duce just wrote a book about it, gave it a name, a symbol, and a political party. Mussolini declared Fascism to be a Religion, making Mussolini a religious founder and prophet like Muhammad. Catholics at first were not okay with Mussolini saying Fascism is also a Religion, but when the Duce explained how simple the Religion of Fascism is, Catholics realized they were already practicing the Fascist faith.

Fascism is a Religion compatible with all Religions that are not atheist religions. Fascism is oppossed to no Religion unless the Religion has no belief in supernatural entities.

If you are oppossed to secularism and prayerful, that alone almost makes you an adherent to the Fascist faith. I explain more here.



Ancient Israel was an ultra-right wing patriotic, conservative, intolerant, militant, single-party Fascist Dictatorship and Theocracy. Fascism as a form of government is first seen practiced in the Bible.

God does not recognize Democracy. He describes what the Kingdom of God will be like. The only form of government God recognizes and promotes in Scripture is Fascism.
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I don't believe it is good to practice extreme forms of Fascism like the Bible promotes. Mussolini was very lenient, tolerant, and compassionate compared to figures like Moses who killed people for working on Saturday.

Benito Mussolini brought Fascism in a much more mild form than what is seen in Islam, Judaism, or Christianity.

Mussolini let political opponents run free to provide for their families, and shed no blood to replace the Prime minister and destroy Democracy.

He had compassion on the five people that tried to assassinate him (one of the bullets grazed his nose), and Mussolini gave a slap on the wrist to officers Americans would have court-martialed and Russians would have executed.

He was in power for almost 23 years , and prior to Hitler forcing him into World War 2 was too lenient to even qualify as a Dictator in my opinion, because he was so likeable the majority of people preferred Italy as being better than before his rise to power, so the Duce had little need to oppress people, because almost every Italian supported his regime.
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Spider-Man wrote:
Mussolini let political opponents run free to provide for their families, and shed no blood to replace the Prime minister and destroy Democracy.

This assertion I can prove to be fallacious . For an example , take the case of Giacomo Matteotti . https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/23/opinion/jamal-khashoggi-murder-mussolini-italy-fascism-mbs-saudi-arabia.html He was just one of many political dissidents persecuted by the Black Shirts . https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/01/how-italian-fascists-succeeded-in-taking-over-italy.html Fascism is best seen as constituting a political cult characterized by dogmatism , and totalism . https://freedomofmind.com/political-cults-leadership-idealism-and-totalism-a-discussion-with-dennis-tourish-ph-d/ , https://www.openmindsfoundation.org/faces_of_undue_influence/manipulative-groups/political-cults/
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Deutschmania wrote:This assertion I can prove to be fallacious . For an example , take the case of Giacomo Matteotti . https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/23/opinion/jamal-khashoggi-murder-mussolini-italy-fascism-mbs-saudi-arabia.html He was just one of many political dissidents persecuted by the Black Shirts . https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/01/how-italian-fascists-succeeded-in-taking-over-italy.html Fascism is best seen as constituting a political cult characterized by dogmatism , and totalism . https://freedomofmind.com/political-cults-leadership-idealism-and-totalism-a-discussion-with-dennis-tourish-ph-d/ , https://www.openmindsfoundation.org/faces_of_undue_influence/manipulative-groups/political-cults/


Mussolini condemned atrocities committed by Fascists. He was tough during his rise to power but eased up later. The actions of many fascists were not ordered by Mussolini who told his wife Rachel, "we shall pay dearly for this", and lamented it.

And yes, he did let political opponents out of jail to provide for their families.
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Spider-Man wrote:Mussolini condemned atrocities committed by Fascists. He was tough during his rise to power but eased up later. The actions of many fascists were not ordered by Mussolini who told his wife Rachel, "we shall pay dearly for this", and lamented it.

And yes, he did let political opponents out of jail to provide for their families.

What are the sources for what you claim ? I have tried to look up information on his supposedly paroling political prisoners , so that they could provide for their families , but could not find any indication of that having been the case .
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Deutschmania wrote:What are the sources for what you claim ? I have tried to look up information on his supposedly paroling political prisoners , so that they could provide for their families , but could not find any indication of that having been the case .

I can make a YouTube video where I can film the areas of Rachel Mussolini's biography. I trust that she does not whitewash the man because of how well she does at pointing out his demons. She says his release of prisoners to provide for their families lead to his arrest and execution by partisans.
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Spider-Man wrote:I trust Rachel more than I trust anyone because she knew the man since she was 7 years old. She knew him far better than anyone else did, and she points out his faults and doesn't whitewash him


Objectivity. you really should pick your sources better,
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Deutschmania wrote:I just discovered that Rachele Mussolini was the second wife of Benito . He had abandoned his first wife , and son . https://web.archive.org/web/20110629125929/http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/article411675.ece So it would be good to have independent verification , rather than simply the anecdotal evidence of a homewrecker .

Mussolini was not perfect. He had his demons. But nobody wants to mention his angels and all the good he did. Rachel Mussolini does not white wash him. She points out his faults. She fought with him. But the man had done more good than any politician and was an amazing person who took over the Cradle of democracy without shedding blood and without anybody voting for him. He accomplished The Impossible. Fascist Italy was an amazing place before World War II. Even Gandhi said great things about Mussolini
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Donna wrote:It really doesn't matter how cultured and gentlemanly and aristocratic the fascist thinks of himself, the consequences of his ideology being implemented in the modern world are guard towers and death camps.

Fascist Italy was like paradise before World War II. Gandhi tried to find a single Italian that didn't like Mussolini. The Italians said he put more money in their pockets made the trains run on time and restored order made them proud to be Italian. Gandhi said many good things about Mussolini and left the biggest impression on him
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Spider-Man wrote:Fascist Italy was like paradise before World War II. Gandhi tried to find a single Italian that didn't like Mussolini. The Italians said he put more money in their pockets made the trains run on time and restored order made them proud to be Italian. Gandhi said many good things about Mussolini and left the biggest impression on him


Didn't Gandhi offer charitable appraisals of Hitler too? At any rate, there were a lot of relativistic assessments of fascism during the interregnum. The world quickly learned how meaningless they were.

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