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BOMBSHELL: McConnell Told [in leaked recorded call] To IGNORE Will Of Voters By [billionaire] Donors. The Repud Senators & Reps. were told to "Ignore the will of the voters, and quietly kill the bill in Congress."

This is from the "New Yorker" article, but he provided no link.
You may have heard other parts of this call. The other places I've seen it were more about how a majority of Repub voters are in favor of HR1, aka S1.And how the donors paid researchers did focus groups and polls, and found the bill was very popular.


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Soon they will make up the old thing from the past...how many jelly beans are in that jar? Guess the number or lose your right to vote. Lol.

Just ignore the will of the voters--sounds about right for what the USA right-wing DC sellouts believe.
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Steve_American wrote:BOMBSHELL: McConnell Told [in leaked recorded call] To IGNORE Will Of Voters By [billionaire] Donors. The Repud Senators & Reps. were told to "Ignore the will of the voters, and quietly kill the bill in Congress."

This is from the "New Yorker" article, but he provided no link.
You may have heard other parts of this call. The other places I've seen it were more about how a majority of Repub voters are in favor of HR1, aka S1.And how the donors paid researchers did focus groups and polls, and found the bill was very popular.
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I don't think popularity is considered to be all that important by anyone (except when it is useful as a substitute for merit). Our system is based on the idea that principles and rights matter more than majority opinion. Such opinion is not just often wrong and uninformed, it often disregards the rights of the minority. Bad and unconstitutional bills are often supported by large segments of the population.

There is nothing inappropriate about a private entity seeking to preserve their rights just because others disagree. It's amazing how the Koch brothers using their system to further their interests is forbidden, but others trying the same thing is "Democracy". All depends on one's desired outcome I suppose.
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Wolvenbear wrote:I don't think popularity is considered to be all that important by anyone (except when it is useful as a substitute for merit). Our system is based on the idea that principles and rights matter more than majority opinion. Such opinion is not just often wrong and uninformed, it often disregards the rights of the minority. Bad and unconstitutional bills are often supported by large segments of the population.

There is nothing inappropriate about a private entity seeking to preserve their rights just because others disagree. It's amazing how the Koch brothers using their system to further their interests is forbidden, but others trying the same thing is "Democracy". All depends on one's desired outcome I suppose.

Do I have your intent correct?
ISTM, that you are in favor of "shutting up" (or is it 'shutting out') the majority without even addressing one single thing they are calling for.
ISTM, that you don't like the out comes of elections and you are willing to change the rules to so you always win going forward. That is, you are doing exactly what you claim the Dems are trying to do. But then, this is a tried and true thing the Repuds have done for decades. I could list many examples, but Trump saying that the Dems were cheating in the last election when a] All the evidence of massive cheating and most small election cheating shwed it was done by Repuds, and b] Trump spent millons looking for evidence of cheating by the Dems and found less than 100 votes in the whole US. That is, 100 votes out of 153,000,000 votes. IIRC.
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Unthinking Majority wrote:For many decades there's a forest of trees with hundreds small holes in every tree. This just in: forest ranger is shocked to find woodpecker in a tree.

Bad analogy.
Don't you know that woodpeckers are good for trees. They eat the bugs that are eating the tree from under the bark where other animals can't get to them.
It's like oxpeckers. Animals line up to let them eat the bugs off their hides.
Trees can't show us that they like what the woodpeckers do, like animals can. That doesn't mean that the woodpeckers are not helping the trees, also.
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Wolvenbear wrote:
Our system is based on the idea that principles and rights matter

It's amazing how the Koch brothers using their system to further their interests is forbidden



Republicans and principles? Don't make me laugh.

One of the Koch brothers died, there is only one now. They tried to get control of the country from the shadows. I'd like to have a little talk with him, and ask how he feels about the Russians using the elaborate system he developed to try and wreck the country.

This is a LOT more complicated than you realise..

Also, the Santiago slums smell a lot worse too.

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