B0ycey wrote:Well I am 100% behind freedom of speech and although you should have total freedom to say what you like, what you say should adhere to the law. The same way you have freedom to buy a kitchen knife, you can't just start stabbing people because of that freedom. Speech is the same. If you are spouting lies on the radio and that is detrimental to others safety, that should also be punished legally. I know you can't do that in the UK as we have broadcasting standards with OFCOM. If America has broadcasting standards, then they should use them also I guess.
Sir, you need to totally rethink this post.
1st you are for totally free speech.
Then you are for allowing laws that restrict free speech.
So, which one wins out in your mind.
I proposed a standard on which it would be possible to stamp out speech by Nazis that advocates Nazi ideals. Like "Jews will not replace us." This standard would make it a crime to circulate a petition calling for slavery to be allowed again in the US. Some HS students in Miss. did exactly that in the last few weeks, and didn't get punished except maybe a wrist slap.
IMHO, such laws are now necessary, because the internet allows a few nut cases to find like minded people and live in their mind set bubble. This seed can then sprout into a problem.
. . . I can think of a few more things that ought to be suppressed at the very beginning before they can become a seed and then sprout. I don't want to list them because some are so disgusting that I don't want to upset the lurkers here. One example may be OK, I don't think that we need to allow people to call for a return of the religion of the Aztec people, that was stamped out by the Spanish in Mexico in the 1500s.
. . . The problem is how do we just limit such laws to those few things that almost everyone agrees on, and have agreed on through deep time. And even there, women's rights are an exception, in that just about every civilization since writing was invented (until at least the 1900s) has believed that women were 2nd class humans. The only exception might be the Minoan culture of pre-Greek Crete. But we can't read their writing yet, AFAIK. While there has never been a full on Matriarchy, there have been Matrilineal cultures where women were equal to men. This system was fairly common among cultures that gardened without cattle and plows. OTOH, cultures that lived off their animals and didn't grow plants were almost always patrilineal.
. . . I had a friend in college who thought that all civilized cultures were a result of a pastoral tribe invading and taking over a gardening tribe with its land and crops, and so fusing the 2 ways of life into one. All of this would have happened 2000 years or more before writing, so we just don't have any good evidence.