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#15250792
"In 2011, the new House Republican majority, egged on by Eric Cantor and Kevin McCarthy and led by radical Tea Party rightists such as Jason Chaffetz, brought the U.S. to the brink of a default. The disaster was headed off by a last-minute compromise between Speaker John Boehner, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and President Barack Obama. A breach of the debt ceiling, meaning the loss of the full faith and credit of the United States, would have been catastrophic. But Chaffetz and many of his colleagues were more than willing to make that happen. In the aftermath, Chaffetz said, “We weren’t kidding around. We would have taken it down.”

...This time there are more radicals in the Republican party. You can bet Trump will be egging them on. There aren't many Republicans left, if there are any at all, that have the backbone to defy Trump to save the economy. So we will default on the debt for no good reason...

"When it comes to the House, FiveThirtyEight has found that so far, at minimum 117 House Republicans with at least a 95 percent chance of winning are full-blown election deniers or questioners, a good leading indicator of radicalism and a willingness to ignore facts and embrace fantasy. In turn, they are willing, if not eager, to blow up institutions and government itself to accomplish their goals."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ns/671707/
#15251251
I repeat what I've said before: in 2016, Hillary Clinton repeatedly stated that Donald Trump would not be in fact the legal president.

Republicans might have perfected this technology, but Democrats invented it.
#15251254
@Negotiator :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

In case you didn't know, I am laughing at the stupidity of what you said.


In 2016, 2.8 million more people voted for Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton than Trump, but she lost the determining Electoral College vote. During a September 2019 interview on CBS, she blamed her loss on voting restrictions passed by some states before the 2016 election and Russian hacking of her campaign that was later confirmed by a U.S. Department of Justice investigation.

Trump "knows he’s an illegitimate president," Clinton said. "I believe he understands that the many varying tactics they used, from voter suppression and voter purging to hacking to the false stories — he knows that — there were just a bunch of different reasons why the election turned out like it did … I know he knows this wasn’t on the level."

In an October 2020 interview with The Atlantic, Clinton said, "There was a widespread understanding that [the 2016] election was not on the level. We still don’t know what happened … but you don’t win by 3 million votes and have all this other shenanigans and stuff going on and not come away with an idea like, ‘Whoa, something’s not right here.’"


https://www.statesman.com/story/news/po ... 548196007/

Know the facts before being stupid. Context.
#15251264
Vladimir Putin didn't dare to invade Ukraine as long as Trump was President. He wasn't scared of Biden. I can quite believe that Putin tried to help Trump narrow the gap in 2016, but like James Comey who also tried to reduce Clinton's winning margin it never occurred to him that Trump could actually win. Neither Comey nor Putin wanted Trump to win.
#15251280
@Rich

If Trump was in office when Putin invaded Ukraine, Ukraine would be ALL occupied by Russian troops and Zelinsky would be in a Russian prison awaiting his show trial before a Russian kangaroo court. Putin had no fear or respect at all for Trump and while Trump was in office, Putin felt free to act on the international arena without fear of consequences. But he does respect Biden though given the massive casualties his troops have taken in Ukraine. Good thing Biden was in office instead of Trump when Russia invaded Ukraine. Now, with Biden in office, Putin must fear consequences and accountability for his actions, unlike the case when Trump was in office.

I also agree with the notion behind the title of the thread. If Republicans take power, they will cause more damage to the U.S. economy with big giveaways to those who are already wealthy who don't need any of these giveaways due to the fact they already live luxurious lives. The Republicans have no interest in helping the U.S. economy. They only care about ensuring that the wealthy get even fatter and wealthy than before at the expense of everybody else under the lie that they want to "help the economy." And if they don't get their way, they might try to default on debt to burn the whole system down in a temper tantrum. This is important for the American people to remember so that hopefully, they do not vote for such extremism that can in turn destroy their livelihoods and the ability to earn a living.
#15251281
late wrote:"In 2011, the new House Republican majority, egged on by Eric Cantor and Kevin McCarthy and led by radical Tea Party rightists such as Jason Chaffetz, brought the U.S. to the brink of a default. The disaster was headed off by a last-minute compromise between Speaker John Boehner, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and President Barack Obama. A breach of the debt ceiling, meaning the loss of the full faith and credit of the United States, would have been catastrophic. But Chaffetz and many of his colleagues were more than willing to make that happen. In the aftermath, Chaffetz said, “We weren’t kidding around. We would have taken it down.”

...This time there are more radicals in the Republican party. You can bet Trump will be egging them on. There aren't many Republicans left, if there are any at all, that have the backbone to defy Trump to save the economy. So we will default on the debt for no good reason...

"When it comes to the House, FiveThirtyEight has found that so far, at minimum 117 House Republicans with at least a 95 percent chance of winning are full-blown election deniers or questioners, a good leading indicator of radicalism and a willingness to ignore facts and embrace fantasy. In turn, they are willing, if not eager, to blow up institutions and government itself to accomplish their goals."

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... ns/671707/


The main issue for me is basically? That both parties are incapable of making the changes necessary to get the agenda done. On the Democratic side, they got those two Democrats in Name Only who are really Right Wing Republican total sellouts, Sinema and Manchin, holding up things, and they water down the agenda terribly. You got moderate on-fence nailbiter democrats that SUCK. The socialist left in the Democratic party that in my opinion have the best remedies for the working people are held back by too many lousy middle-of-the-road liberals and moderate semi republican pro-corporation types who never do anything for the working people.

You then have nightmares of outright fascists and violent coup-type mentality people who just want to kill off the opposition and don't have any real policies but burning down all policies or programs that help out average people in the Republican party. They want war, civil war, lynchings and killings, and burnings, and all of them are extreme right people. They have taken over the small government, don't raise taxes boring ass conservative party with subtle racism in the currents there, but controlled. Now it is full-blown nasty racism, sexism, and classism, and totally sold out to the fortune 500 and the super wealthy agenda.

Again, if they don't come down hard on the fascist white power types that want a coup? And get rid of them soon? They will have a civil war in the USA. And if the fascists don't get stomped extremely hard? Politically and financially and legally? They will eventually not be so disorganized and they will rally back and pose a threat to any sort of political process that doesn't favor them. Saying elections are illegitimate and the results that are not for some Republican fascists are not valid. They will take over. We are not talking about small amounts of voters here. It is massive millions.

IMHO this was allowed to happen because the broken electoral college system was never fixed. The Filibuster in the senate was never fixed. You allowed Citizens United vs. The United States to stand and not be overturned. You allowed a bunch of right-wing extremely conservative court justices to be rammed into the SCOTUS by McConnell and the Obama choice was denied. No one did what was necessary. Not fighting hard enough.

The system is broken folks. You got legal bribes going on and many of these slimy politicians are making money through lobbyists, and through becoming paid consultants trading their insider knowledge or commercial trade bills being bandied about in their PAC groups. You got black budgets with donors to campaigns hiding like damn thieves in the night pumping money in to influence votes that are supposed to be about representing ordinary US citizens. Not some powerful banks, and corporations with worldwide control of hundreds of billions of dollars and trillions of combined funds. It is a recipe for killing democratic ways of dealing with political office and the purpose of government.

Now the fascist violent types will be a massive threat. To stability, economy, and everything else. They got a pattern of retrograde governance. It will be zero health clinics and rolling back civil rights for everyone, more wars and more spending on wars, more cuts to social security, and disability benefits, no child care for anyone without it being your own pocket, neglected public schools defunded, and only expensive private religious schools have given public school money like that Betsy De Voss woman wanted to happen. More student debt needs to be paid off because the banks that run the Republican party and fund it well will NEVER want some student debt forgiveness. if the Republican party gets in office they will want you to die if you can't pay a medical bill or a student loan bill, or if some rapist rapes you and you get pregnant by him, or if you are of African descent and you marry some white liberal woman in 1961 and have mixed children? The mongrel race. Outlaw it all. RETROGRADE dumbness will take over the USA.

MAWA will be the reality. What is MAWA? Make America White Again. And they don't realize that without the other groups present in the USA? Their economy tanks forever. Forever. But? Madness and stupidity are hallmarks of the racist element. They are kind of crazy in a deep sense. But if half the voters vote for crazy governance? And they continue to grow and are unopposed? That is what the USA is going to get.
#15251316
Tainari88 wrote:The main issue for me is basically? That both parties are incapable of making the changes necessary to get the agenda done. On the Democratic side, they got those two Democrats in Name Only who are really Right Wing Republican total sellouts, Sinema and Manchin, holding up things, and they water down the agenda terribly. You got moderate on-fence nailbiter democrats that SUCK. The socialist left in the Democratic party that in my opinion have the best remedies for the working people are held back by too many lousy middle-of-the-road liberals and moderate semi republican pro-corporation types who never do anything for the working people.

You then have nightmares of outright fascists and violent coup-type mentality people who just want to kill off the opposition and don't have any real policies but burning down all policies or programs that help out average people in the Republican party. They want war, civil war, lynchings and killings, and burnings, and all of them are extreme right people. They have taken over the small government, don't raise taxes boring ass conservative party with subtle racism in the currents there, but controlled. Now it is full-blown nasty racism, sexism, and classism, and totally sold out to the fortune 500 and the super wealthy agenda.

Again, if they don't come down hard on the fascist white power types that want a coup? And get rid of them soon? They will have a civil war in the USA. And if the fascists don't get stomped extremely hard? Politically and financially and legally? They will eventually not be so disorganized and they will rally back and pose a threat to any sort of political process that doesn't favor them. Saying elections are illegitimate and the results that are not for some Republican fascists are not valid. They will take over. We are not talking about small amounts of voters here. It is massive millions.

IMHO this was allowed to happen because the broken electoral college system was never fixed. The Filibuster in the senate was never fixed. You allowed Citizens United vs. The United States to stand and not be overturned. You allowed a bunch of right-wing extremely conservative court justices to be rammed into the SCOTUS by McConnell and the Obama choice was denied. No one did what was necessary. Not fighting hard enough.

The system is broken folks. You got legal bribes going on and many of these slimy politicians are making money through lobbyists, and through becoming paid consultants trading their insider knowledge or commercial trade bills being bandied about in their PAC groups. You got black budgets with donors to campaigns hiding like damn thieves in the night pumping money in to influence votes that are supposed to be about representing ordinary US citizens. Not some powerful banks, and corporations with worldwide control of hundreds of billions of dollars and trillions of combined funds. It is a recipe for killing democratic ways of dealing with political office and the purpose of government.

Now the fascist violent types will be a massive threat. To stability, economy, and everything else. They got a pattern of retrograde governance. It will be zero health clinics and rolling back civil rights for everyone, more wars and more spending on wars, more cuts to social security, and disability benefits, no child care for anyone without it being your own pocket, neglected public schools defunded, and only expensive private religious schools have given public school money like that Betsy De Voss woman wanted to happen. More student debt needs to be paid off because the banks that run the Republican party and fund it well will NEVER want some student debt forgiveness. if the Republican party gets in office they will want you to die if you can't pay a medical bill or a student loan bill, or if some rapist rapes you and you get pregnant by him, or if you are of African descent and you marry some white liberal woman in 1961 and have mixed children? The mongrel race. Outlaw it all. RETROGRADE dumbness will take over the USA.

MAWA will be the reality. What is MAWA? Make America White Again. And they don't realize that without the other groups present in the USA? Their economy tanks forever. Forever. But? Madness and stupidity are hallmarks of the racist element. They are kind of crazy in a deep sense. But if half the voters vote for crazy governance? And they continue to grow and are unopposed? That is what the USA is going to get.


:D Laments the lack of thug politics on her side but is afraid of thug politics from the other side!

:D Total lack of self-awareness.

:D She's afraid of what is coming. GOOD.


Keywords and concepts:

Judge Bork

Last lynching in America - 1981. YAWN.

Don't raise taxes on me. Raise them on everyone else. Free Shit Army type stuff rehashed.

Electoral College - An amendment may be proposed by a two-thirds vote of both Houses of Congress, or, if two-thirds of the States request one, by a convention called for that purpose. The amendment must then be ratified by three-fourths of the State legislatures, or three-fourths of conventions called in each State for ratification.... so anytime honey!

System Broken - AKA "I'm not getting my way". :D (Goes along with OMG! - if we don't get our way and democrats don't win, "democracy will be lost") :D :lol: :)

Legal bribes - see the DNC. They are masters at it.

Damn thieves - see the DNC and their CONFISCATION of union dues to fund themselves and their continued power.

Fascist violent types? - Summer of 2020 and DEMOCRATS burning, looting and destroying property and cities for 150 days.

MAWA - racist left-wing BS spouted when they don't get their way. Long bigoted racist rant. It's a thing of beauty. :lol:

Finally, the bitch will LOVE the filibuster when it favors her.

If democrats didn't have double standards, they'd have no standards at all.
#15251325
Well, I just did early voting today and voted Democrat all the way down the line, though one Republican on the ballot who I think has honor and integrity I would be happy to vote for if the Democrats did not have a viable alternative. However, I did not vote for him, given that the Democrats also put up a good candidate for the position he sought to stay elected in.
#15251331
BlutoSays wrote:
Judge Bork



I know a high powered attorney that does international business law in DC.

He is very, very conservative, and he knows Bork. He was glad Bork didn't get on the Supreme Court. He said he lacked the judicial temperament a SC judge needs.

Btw, the Watergate investigators ran out of time before they got to everybody. Bork was on that list, they just ran out of time before they got to him...
#15251645
After seeing shit-bot Merrick Garland and his DOJ blunders, he's ten times worse. So stop whining about how put-upon you donkeys are. You deserve exactly what's coming to you.

Frankly, I don't GAS about your high-powered attorney. His opinion is his opinion (or as those in the business say... hearsay).

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